Werewolf XLVI: Getting Back to Basics

[Nogrod]

Just off to the kitchen...

Volo -> Volo
Lhuna -> Gwath
Kath -> Legate
Nerwen -> Lhuna

Legate looks better right now and Gwath's "myths" feel more reasonable than not.

I might go for Lhuna today based on reasons I gave in #41.

Also...

Originally Posted by Aganzir

A fair point about Lhuna not reacting to your suspicion. But I'm not sure what you meant by saying she didn't state a reason for suspecting you. Do you mean she didn't say that in the post in which she declared you as one of her top suspects, or that she didn't give proper reasons for you being either a sneaky wolf or a trigger-happy innocent?

What I meant was that she mentioned myself as one of her top-candidates without giving a reason why was that. Of the others (Gwath and Nerwen) she made points about. Saying one is "a sneaky wolf or a trigger-happy innocent" can hardly be counted as an argument as such... without further reasoning.

And she's too good a player to just retaliate a suspicion for suspicion if innocent.

EDIT: X'd with a few + added Nerwen's vote

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

What I meant was that she mentioned myself as one of her top-candidates without giving a reason why was that. Of the others (Gwath and Nerwen) she made points about. Saying one is "a sneaky wolf or a trigger-happy innocent" can hardly be counted as an argument as such... without further reasoning.

Maybe because she hadn't said anything about them earlier.

Gwathy, see my post #49, I asked you something. Last game you were a wolf you got too far by ignoring suspicions and questions, and I won't let it happen again.

I think it's rather hasty to say Volo looks like a wolf because of his vote. My opinion is that he's crazy enough to do it even as innocent, but even if someone else had done it I wouldn't consider it so suspicious.
I would say it's strange indeed that there's such an ado about it...

I am likely to vote either Legate, Gwath or Lhuna today.

edit: xed with two Gwathys

[Gwathagor]

Sloppy reading on my part, sorry.

My point was that it seems strange to claim that wolves don't make plans. After all, they DO conspire for 24 hours.

[Mithalwen]

Mind you they (I assume) are as much in the dark as us about gifteds. They can't be certain they haven't been picked as a first night seer dream. As a consequence they have perhaps increased dilemma about mentioning their packmates names - not mentioining is as potentially incriminating as the reverse. I remember in my second mod-game it was early doors because Boroseer88effectively bagged two wolves in one. Anyway I have an idea who I am voting for but I shall keep that to myslef pending a swift reread.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

Sloppy reading on my part, sorry.

My point was that it seems strange to claim that wolves don't make plans. After all, they DO conspire for 24 hours.

No problem.

My point was that they often make less plans than the villagers think - I've been in a pack which came up with brilliant plans, but more often I've also been in packs where there wasn't much planning and we just decided to do what felt best in the days. And therefore what villagers think an obvious wolf plot isn't always that for the wolves, who often don't have as much experience with plotting as villagers think.

So the possibility of three good players making an "obvious" wolf plan without the intent to double bluff shouldn't be completely ruled out either.

I'm not sure if this makes any sense to anyone.

edit: xed with Mith

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

No problem.

My point was that they often make less plans than the villagers think - I've been in a pack which came up with brilliant plans, but more often I've also been in packs where there wasn't much planning and we just decided to do what felt best in the days. And therefore what villagers think an obvious wolf plot isn't always that for the wolves, who often don't have as much experience with plotting as villagers think.

So the possibility of three good players making an "obvious" wolf plan without the intent to double bluff shouldn't be completely ruled out either.

I'm not sure if this makes any sense to anyone.

edit: xed with Mith

So your point is: people have a tendency to over-analyze.

[Gwathagor]

Volo -> Volo
Lhuna -> Gwath
Kath -> Legate
Nerwen -> Lhuna
Gwath -> Lhuna
Mith -> Nog
Nog -> Lhuna
TEW -> Aganzir

Everyone else?