Werewolf XLVI: Getting Back to Basics

[Gwathagor]

Volo -> Volo
Lhuna -> Gwath
Kath -> Legate
Nerwen -> Lhuna
Gwath -> Lhuna
Mith -> Nog
Nog -> Lhuna
TEW -> Aganzir
Lommy -> Gwath
Aganzir -> Legate

[Meneltarmacil]

The villagers crowded around Lhunardawen.

"Wolf! Your vile deeds are at an end!" shouted Gwathagor.

"We ought to stone you with your own pinecones!" yelled Nogrod

"Well, as long as it's humane and no animals are hurt aside from the wolf, I'm in," Nerwen agreed.

"Wait! I'm the one who ought to be lynched!" blurted out Volo "I hate these times that I can't argue with you!"

A rope was flung over a high branch of one of the pine trees and tied into a noose around Lhunardawen's neck. The villagers formed a line and pulled up on the other end of the rope, hoisting the victim high.

"Please! Let me down!" Lhuna gasped. "You're making a horrible mistake! If I die there'll be nobody to..."

She ran out of breath and died. As the villagers released their hold on the rope, the body fell to the ground, and out of Lhuna's clothes rolled a crystal ball.

The kind used by Seers.

"Oh no..." said Kath. "This isn't good."

Alive:
Aganzir
Gwathagor
Kath
Legate of Amon Lanc
Mithalwen
Nerwen
Nogrod
Oddwen
satansaloser2005
The Elf-warrior
Thinlomien
Volo

Dead:
Meneltarmacil (Moderator): Crushed under falling cow by Wolves on Night 1.
Lhunardawen (Seer): Hung by villagers on Day 1.

Night 2 begins. I need names from those who can give them. Villagers, please cease posting.

[Meneltarmacil]

The next day dawned. It was overcast and foggy.

The villagers gathered around and noted that one of them was missing.

"Where's Aganzir? I was going to buy a pair of boots from her," asked Kath.

Indeed, the Cobbler was not around.

"I'll bet she's talking to her friends, the werewolves," noted Volo. "After all, she's a Cobbler, so she has to secretly hate us all and support the wolves."

The villagers made there way to Aganzir's house, where a gruesome sight awaited them. The Cobbler's bloody remains were lying all over the place, while her skin had been dried out to fit a pair of boots.

Worst of all, there was no sign that she had been anything but an Ordinary Villager.

Alive:
Gwathagor
Kath
Legate of Amon Lanc
Mithalwen
Nerwen
Nogrod
Oddwen
satansaloser2005
The Elf-warrior
Thinlomien
Volo

Dead:
Meneltarmacil (Moderator): Crushed under falling cow by Wolves on Night 1.
Lhunardawen (Seer): Hung by villagers on Day 1.
Aganzir (Ordinary Villager): Made into shoes by Wolves on Night 2.

And thus begins Day 2. Wolves, no more PMing. Villagers may commence posting.

[Thinlómien]

I'm surprised and sad to see Agan go. But at least I won't have to puzzle over her role... We should maybe think why she was killed although it has less value since the seer is already dead... speaking of which...

YesterDay's voting result was a fiasco. I will have a look at the bandwagon, surely. I think the whole case against Lhuna was quite feeble and I'm still surprised how so many fell for it. I'm quite sure at least one wolf voted Lhuna, butsurely the wolves just got lucky and had no idea that Lhuna was the seer - or did they? I think she was so anti-seerish thatthey probably didn't, unless I missed something.

If I have to find good sides of the seer being dead, well, I can say I can stop seeing seers everywhere. Normally I don't pay any attention to gifteds but yesterDay I had about three or four seer candidates I was being careful with (and no, Lhuna was not among them). Now I can maybe look at them more neutrally.

[Volo]

La République démocratique du Congo est le troisième plus vaste pays d’Afrique et le plus peuplé d'Afrique centrale.

Still haven't read all of that and even while I am reading, my head simply doesn't work. :/ Sorry to say, but this game isn't doing me a favour.

All I feel right now is that either Legate is being framed, or he's framing that he's framed.


editXd with Lommy

[Volo]

Originally Posted by Noggie

And Kath! I can't believe this! But yes I'm not suspecting her at the moment. Hear the soughing of the leaves of history! I still am afraid of her everytime I play in a game with her but somehow her approach feels more innocentish than not this time. What's happening?

This too is an interesting comment. I haven't decided who of the two is more guilty, but something is not right. 'night.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Well, I can only state it's most unfortunate about Lhuna, and the more now that I see there's probably not much to find out from her posts. If we can conclude anything, then I'd say it's that she didn't dream of Nerwen, Nogrod or Gwathagor. Which is really not much, or actually nothing.

As for Aganzir, without the intention to sound nasty, I would have said just what Lommy said: "At least I won't have to puzzle over her role", indeed. But now after the Night I'd wonder if it could have had something to do with the attempt to frame me or anything, but in any case, that's not my problem, but the wolves', if they have such intention.

And Nog now - I don't like him more and more, and that I say even after his just one post toDay. That looks like an attempt to throw it on Lommy. Would he be such a wolf to act as openly? Because it really screams wolfy to me. Unless they were wolves both, but that I don't think.

What else? Let's wait, shall we not, Boss Gamabunta...

Edit: x-ed with Lommy

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Well, I can only state it's most unfortunate about Lhuna, and the more now that I see there's probably not much to find out from her posts.

Seriously? Or do you just not want us to look? Both you and Lommy have seriously played down the implications of Lhuna's death. And now you're both going after Nogrod.

Volo, I want to know what the deal was with your self-vote yesterday, because it looks awfully sneaky - as if you were saying "look, I'm clearly innocent because a wolf would never do this."

Nogrod, I don't like the tone of your posts. I said it yesterday, and I'll say it again: they seem domineering and manipulative.

[Nogrod]

I don't know what it is exactly but Lommy's first post looks wolvish indeed. It's probably the whole way she approaches Agan's and Lhuna's passing... It looks like a combination of dowplaying our misery, apologising for the kills, thinking like the wolves...

I'm going to look back at yesterDay to see if I can find anything that would help us from there. I hope as many of you do the same.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I don't know what it is exactly but Lommy's first post looks wolvish indeed. It's probably the whole way she approaches Agan's and Lhuna's passing... It looks like a combination of dowplaying our misery, apologising for the kills, thinking like the wolves...

Well I was very tempted to mourn Lhuna more vocally and say "what did I say about lynching her being a bad idea" but decided not to be so self-promoting... Anyway, partly because of that comment you just made it to my suspicion list.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Anyway, partly because of that comment you just made it to my suspicion list.

So you play this in the good old retaliation way now Lommy?

I will not suspect you if you ask questions about me as that's what we need to do. The wolves only need to make friends and rub you nicely. We innocents need to look at everything and everyone and make the questions that need to be asked so that we can either start suspeting more or to clear someone - at least for a while. But without trying every possible idea we will never get the wolves.

And that goes to you Legate as well. You should know better than that. You can't play without suspecting left and right and looking which dog howls when the stick hits.

If you guys decide your votes on the basis of who is nice to you please go ahead but just remember the wolves are your best mates when the sun still shines. During the Nights it will be different.

I may shut my big mouth and not give you any new ideas if they so upset you. Or are you wolves who do not like the direction this is going?

Gah.

Sorry. I got a bit carried away but two similar posts like that following each other kind of frustrated me. Please go on and suspect me and I can say why you're wrong - and take my points on you in the similar fashion as decent questions to be answered by you.

[Nogrod]

Lhuna seems to have had one dream as Menel's narration for Night1 ends with

Originally Posted by Menel

Any gifteds present who have reason to give me names, please do so.

Now Lhuna says
of Mith: "rather innocent, in my opinion"
of me: "either a sneaky wolf or a trigger-happy innocent"
of Lommy: "guilty Finn?" & "Lommy"
of Legate: "bored innocent or wolf setting up an insanity defence"

Then she goes on with the following in one post:
Volo is a lost explorer
Agan is sweet and innocent (or so she claims)
Gwath is a guilty lawyer and is likely to ignore Legate's plea for insanity
Oddwen is crazy and innocent.

Ending all this she goes... "So my pine cones tell me".
Now this last add-on kind of makes me wonder whether someone noticed this already yesterDay or is it just th power of hindsight that makes this one shine through?

But if she wished to hint she was the seer why isn't she more explicit with whom she knows of? Hinting to be the ser and leving others in confusion about her dreams doesn't sound reasonable playing ... so maybe I'm just reading too much into this?

Anyway... I'm not sure about Gwath but I could imagine Nerwen picking that one up...

Anyway. Next time she comes in she has this to say:

Originally Posted by Lhuna

I don't know, Gwath, but I get this honest gut feeling that you could be sucking up to Legate. If you're a wolf, and you know he's innocent, that's quite a strategy. But that's just me.

Mith feels innocent, she's honest enough to be one, and shows she has nothing to fear in saying whatever she feels like saying.

Nerwen's a bit worrying for skirting the issues, however petty, to which she could have contributed. That one post seems to me very safe - which makes it otherwise, if you get me.

Oddie's behaviour feels normal to me, however unsettling her words may be.

Now, as for Volo's self-vote, I'm not sure if Menel has a provision for automatic lynchings for non-voters. But in any case, I strongly advise not to vote for Volo because of his RL constraints. We have greater need to lynch our strong suspects than people who can't participate properly.

Speaking of participating properly, I see we still have a few people who haven't spoken. I hope they have valid reasons for being still absent. I'll be casting my vote (for either Nogrod, Gwath, or Nerwen as of this moment, but that could very well change) possibly within the hour.

She then goes voting for Gwath but her speculation about why to vote him and why not her other main candidates looks more like pure speculation than anything based on knowledge.

Originally Posted by Lhuna

because of my three highest suspects, he's the one I can defend from myself the least. I should give Nerwen more chance to speak, and Nogrod is always argumentative, although his arguments aren't always sound. But that's not to say I'm taking him off my list. It must be Gwath's disadvantage at this point that I've never played with him before, so I don't know if he's being his usual self, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.

Looking at all this would suggest me a few possibilities - in the order of probability I see it.

She dreamt of Mith and found her innocent.
She dreamt of Gwath and found him a wolf.
She dreamt of Agan and found her innocent.
She dreamt of Oddwen and found her innocent.
She reamt of Nerwen and found her a wolf.

I'd say she dreamt of Mith and found her innocent. For that is the most believable explanation I can find - she after all mentioned her twice and both times as an innocent without reservations or second thoughts / possibilties.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Looking at all this would suggest me a few possibilities - in the order of probability I see it.

She dreamt of Mith and found her innocent.
She dreamt of Gwath and found him a wolf.
She dreamt of Agan and found her innocent.
She dreamt of Oddwen and found her innocent.
She reamt of Nerwen and found her a wolf.

I'd say she dreamt of Mith and found her innocent. For that is the most believable explanation I can find - she after all mentioned her twice and both times as an innocent without reservations or second thoughts / possibilties.

Well I would like to relativise and re-evaluate what you said here. First of all and mainly, I really am not sure whether anything can be said from Lhuna's posts. It's even possible she did not hint anyone at all - after all, she might not have counted on dying this early (and she probably didn't). Also, on first sight it seemed to me that if anyone, it might be Oddwen, because she said practically nothing, yet Lhuna mentioned her quite plainly as "innocent":

Originally Posted by Lhuna

As for the others, Volo is a lost explorer, Agan is sweet and innocent (or so she claims), Gwath is a guilty lawyer and is likely to ignore Legate's plea for insanity, and Oddwen is crazy and innocent.

Originally Posted by Lhuna

Oddie's behaviour feels normal to me, however unsettling her words may be.

Although now looking at it, it doesn't look much convincing either. But that just proves what I said, I really think we can't say much from her posts.

Last but not least, I do not trust you (but you promoting Mith wouldn't have to mean you are wolves together, that will be rather transparent; rather I'd expect you making it look like that, to support the theory that you two are wolves, while she actually isn't).

EDIT: x.-ed since that Nog's post I've quoted