Werewolf XLVI: Getting Back to Basics

[Mithalwen]

Or may be that is self-absorption/self-obsession/arrogance...delete according to your own opinion...

[Volo]

Unlike Noggie, I find Kath more suspicious than in other games I've had with her. I don't think I've ever seen her as a Wolf and I can't really find what made me suspect her. Something in #101 really scared me, but since she has left, I won't start searching much deeper into it toDay.

Nerwen, on the other hand feels quite Innocent. Although some things she said made quite little sense.

Lommy is much more like the Innocent-Lommy than the Wolf-Lommy. Her arguing with Noggie is less nervous than when she's evil.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Some things I noted.

Well found, but unfortunately, I don't think the Seer-dream-stuff is very useful. We should remember that it points at either Oddwen's Innocence or Gwath's guilt. Not both - and we can't know which for sure. Hmm... Ok, my idea was quite pointless, but I want to remind that it doesn't point both to Oddwen's Innocence and Gwath's guilt. I myself, don't believe that the Seer would reveal her Dreams so soon. Then again, Lommy has been good with guessing Dreams earlier... Oh, botheration.

But the find about Gwath's possible slip is good, though I still can't admit that I fully believe in the existance of slips. As deep as I have ventured into the jungles, I have found surprisingly little of the Wolf-eating legend called "slips".

Originally Posted by Lommy

I just had a French lesson (how appropriate ) and something occured to me. Legate and Gwath are fellow wolves, it fits parfaitement. I don't have time to elaborate right now but I will definitely return to that, as well as finish rereading the thread.

This most certainly points to Lommy's Innocence. I hope that something of your point is left - at the very least I would like to hear it.

Noggie's #112 looks too calm concidering the situation. I would have expected much more reaction at Lommy's certainty about Legate and Gwath. Or at least something, something... As if he's avoiding the topic.
And the fact that he continuesly reminds about my vote. I really think he should know better!

edit: Xd with three Lommys

[Thinlómien]

The thing I missed was this.

Originally Posted by Gwath

Seriously? Or do you just not want us to look? Both you and Lommy have seriously played down the implications of Lhuna's death. And now you're both going after Nogrod.

and

Originally Posted by Legate

No way. Just go and look, actually, there's not that many posts from her. But I am stating my opinion: and that is - there's not much to gather.

It really doesn't change anything. Except it's a bit harsh from fellow wolves in the start of Day2, but not unthinkable at all...

Okay, now I'll write a summary about my feelings about people (and quite funnily, I started forming this post in that French lesson many hours ago... I'll see if there are changes...)...


edit: xed with silly Volo

[Thinlómien]

Okay, this is my suspicion list, from the most innocent to the most guilty...

Innocent-like
Mith - general manner, own declarations of innocence

Not alarmed about
Oddwen - feels genuine enough, possibly dreamed of by Lhuna, so I wouldn't start worrying about her yet
Nerwen - general feeling, there's nothing suspicious about her that has caught my attention

Too little data or no clear opinion on
sally - what can you say based on one single post? Well, if I had to guess, I wouldn't be worried...
Elf-Warrior - far too little data, but I'm not really troubled (ie he's slipping under my radar )
Volo - he's not worrying me either, although he has refused to explain his vote, which is something that doesn't make me very easy about him

Slightly suspicious
Kath - there's just something in her overall manner that doesn't sit right with me

Suspicious
Legate
Gwath
Nogrod

I won't elaborate on the three last ones, because they are what I'm mostly been talking about the whole Day. I could vote any of them - although I'd be the least enthusiastic to vote Legate of those. He looks the least suspicious of them and given how my opinion of him changes, I wouldn't be ready to lynch him just yet...

[Gwathagor]

Ok, I have a lot to catch up on. Give me a few moments.

[satansaloser2005]

Okay. A piece of a post, then more homeworks. Yes, I said it. Homeworks.

Sorry about being all vague this morning, but I had like two papers due and a test to study for, so I just put myself out there so you all knew I was at least around. And unfortunately, as I am hurried this won't be much of an insightful post either; just making it clear where I stand with other people.

Down to business, if momentarily.
Lommy seems innocent enough to me, although....I really don't like the way she and Noggie are interacting. I wouldn't be surprised to see a little (or big....tehe) boot flying across the forum closer to deadline. But for now, she is on my innocent list.

Master Noggins. Why, my gin-toting companion, do you leave a strange impression on me? I need to look at you a lot more closely, as at the moment you are in the yellowish-orange colored area of my suspicion map. Best watch yourself mister.

Nerwen. Nerwen, Nerwen, Nerwen. You are operating way too much under the assumption that the wolves knew Lhuna was the seer. (Please correct me if I misunderstand) "The wolves jumped onto my vote because they knew she was seer," major paraphrasing aside, is a fairly suspicious statement. First of all, the only way you could know the wolves thought Lhuna was seer is if you were a wolf. Second of all, anyone, even ordos like myself, could have mistakenly jumped onto the Lhuna-wagon. An unfortunate mistake, but a mistake nonetheless, so to assume that the wolves targeted her specifically is rather silly. Now, I'm not saying that you're wrong, because it's perfectly possible that you as an innocent inadvertently started the bandwagon against her and some of the wolves mixed themselves in alongside the rest of the ordos, but I find this highly unlikely. You get a suspicious tag. Third and last, my duck seems to be catching a cold of some sort. Any ideas on how to make her feathers fluffy again?

Volo, my friend, your self vote seems odd, but I'm thinking you're innocent, especially after seeing your explanation.

Gwath....ie....poo....plead your case, and plead it carefully. I'm doubting you'll be able to weasel, erm, lawyer your way out of this one if you are a wolf, because I'm still apt to believe you are a fuzzy fiend and that Lhuna may have found you out. Or maybe she just got (semi) lucky when she voted you. Either way, I think you need a shave before you appear before the village again.

Elf-Warrior....erm, yeah. I've got nothing. Sorry.

Oddwen seems innocent right now, but I haven't looked at her in detail. I might change my opinion on her, but only if she does something....odd. Sorry; couldn't resist the pun.

Legate is acting very rationally, making good posts, good points, and generally being very helpful. But that doesn't mean he's innocent. I'll have to look at him a lot more, but time isn't allowing for it right now, so he'll have to wait until tomorrow, that is assuming we both survive the Night. For now, I think he's okay though.

Kath hasn't said all that much, but for some reason she seems off to me. I have basically nothing to base it off of right now, but I think she might be a little fuzzy. Have to look closer sometime and form a better opinion.

That's all for now. Obviously coming back to vote, but I'm going to submit this, do some work, and come back in a few minutes.

[satansaloser2005]

And again, sorry for being so quiet and so far unhelpful. So blastedly busy today. *pulls out hair and grabs some ale from Master Nog*

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Gwath....ie....poo....plead your case, and plead it carefully.

What case? Be more specific, please, and I'll do my best to oblige. I haven't seen any serious arguments or evidence leveled against me, but you seem pretty happy to seize on Oddwen's vote and call it a case - and THAT looks fuzzy, because you've been even less involved than Oddwen.

I voted against Lhuna yesterday, first, in self-defense, and second, because her vote looked way too easy and careless to be well-intentioned.

Crossed with Nerwen

[satansaloser2005]

Sorry, Gwath, should have made that more plain. I suspect you, and pretty heavily. Mostly based on Lhuna. And since you're a lawyer, I figured I'd put my suspicion semi-in-character.

And did I mention Oddie? I didn't think I did, but maybe I put something in and didn't realize it.


EDIT: Oddwen's vote. Gotcha now. Sorry, not with it. *facepalms herself* Cancel my 2:30. I'm not in the mood to hear about anyone's mother.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Nerwen. Nerwen, Nerwen, Nerwen. You are operating way too much under the assumption that the wolves knew Lhuna was the seer.

*exasperated sigh* How many times, and to how many people, do I have to explain this? Once again– I did not say that. I said this:

Now, was Lhuna killed for giving Seer hints? We can't assume this, but if she was it's more likely it was for picking a wolf than for babbling about pine cones. (I'd guess Gwathagor, in that case.)

However– why wasn't she killed in the night instead? Remember, she suspected everyone who voted her, so if there are wolves among them (I'm not one, as it happens), then they risked incriminating themselves.

That's if she was killed for being a Seer and not just a nuisance.

This was in the context of general speculation about whether the wolves had or hadn't picked her as the Seer, and lynched her. I wasn't saying anyone who voted her had to be a wolf at all– I was just trying to reason it out.

Did you actually read my post, or were you just going by what other people have said I said?

EDIT: X'd since Sally at #134.

[satansaloser2005]

Oh dear. I just realized I left Mith out of my last post. Sorry!

I thought she was pretty innocent until her last post. I honestly don't think Lhuna dreamt of her, and Mith assuming that she did rubs me the wrong way. Hopefully nothing, but worth mentioning.

[Mithalwen]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Oh dear. I just realized I left Mith out of my last post. Sorry!

I thought she was pretty innocent until her last post. I honestly don't think Lhuna dreamt of her, and Mith assuming that she did rubs me the wrong way. Hopefully nothing, but worth mentioning.

I didn't .... and how was it suspicious in my last post but not my first?

THAT looks odd to me...

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

At least today I am more decided.

++Nogrod

Anyway I feel also more relaxed, as both Nog or Gwath are high on my list, and I'll be comfortable whichever of them ends up lynched (now that sounded pretty awful...).

EDIT: looks like x-ing is quite common here, who knows what I read as last... no wonder...