Tol-in-Gaurhoth L: Battle of the Fandoms

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

So, that's two of my suspects gone.

*sigh*

So, aside from believing the four CoD voters to be innocent, I have nothing.

The problem, really, is I can't find the time to pore over the thread and get my own ideas, so I just read a well-written accusation, think 'Hmm, yes', and go with it.

Haha, maybe I should print up the thread again. (I did that with DWW, and by DAY 3 I had 50+ pages. )

So, yeah, be back later. Still have classes 'n stuff.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Hm, has anyone looked closely at Fëa(sic) lately?

[Nerwen]

I'd like to hear from the Gwath voters.


Nogrod had been after him all day, so it was hardly surprising that he voted him. Still, it does look not unlike the good old "force your opponent to defend himself" wolf-tactic. (I'll bear in mind that half the time when two people go at it hammer and tongs, they're both ordos.)


Mithalwen votes him on grounds which I did not like at the time, and still don't:

I find Gwathagor's response, to my response on his "correct me if I am wrong" re Captain of Despair baffling. How that pointing out that COD isn't an unsphisticated thinker makes me a wolf is beyond me.

Especially since he just agreed with Nogrod that it was unlikely that a COD voter were a wolf.

I said this at the time: all he said was, "of course, you could be a wolf."

A possible attempt to silence him?


Nilp finds Gwath "twisty"– on grounds which I pointed out to him were incorrect. Then he votes him anyway... apparently for putting up a poor defence?

But your defence was simply . . . *shakes head* All this talking about what you might do if you were one or other, what you think he might think of what you're doing, etc. (which you did twice--once yesterDAY and this now toDAY) and rehashing DAY 1 discussion (I thought you hated DAY 1s, why bring them here in DAY 2?) is just *shakes head some more*.

And Mac gives no reason at all.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

I'm moving in the morning, I won't have time to post much of anything (that is if I even manage to check the forum!), I didn't like Nog yesterday, I would have voted him yesterday, and he's done nothing to assuage my suspicions today.

Therefore:

++Nogrod

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Wouldn't it feel that "looks more innocent than guilty" is giving cleaner papers than "not made me more suspicious"?

Those were just the reasons why I put both back from "suspicious" to "somewhat suspicious". In the end, I gave Gwath the notch over Sally out of gut feeling.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I have been quite comfortable with Mac's sober attitude towards me this game and was almost delighted when he shared some of my ideas - and I do owe my continued existence in this game to him to be sure (that's pretty tough to overlook - although it would indeed be the perfect trick performed by the wolf!). But somewhere in the back of my head there has been a quiet voice squeaking: "Look, look, he's dangerous now, why is he doing all that? Every other time he's at you from his first post onwards?" (just a slight overexaggeration for the dramatics).

Oh, come on. If you now suspect me for not suspecting you, I shall change my ways back.
There are a few minor things that I could have pointed early out on, but I didn't, because then you would have suspected me in turn and defended yourself in a way that I would have found even more suspicious, and down the drain it goes. This just happened too often in the past and very rarely did it do any good, so I'm trying to change it this time (and in the future, I hope). One thing I do find suspicious about you is your Day1 vote, which is why I did not go as far as to put you on my innocent list so far.
(Rikae mentioned something the same thing, too)

Originally Posted by Nerwen

And Mac gives no reason at all.

There's little reason I had, sadly. I pointed out several times on Day1 that I felt Gwath's tone of voice was off. On Day2 I felt better about him, but out of the people on the voting block, he was the one I still felt worst about.


A remark about Boro's #311. That is a very good point there (if only it wouldn't come from my lone suspect left), and I would extend it. In Brinn's unsure list, there are also several people that she said she needed to pay more attention to. Now, if one wolf gets such a comment, I don't think it is usually given much heed during the night's plotting, but if both get such a comment from someone who they think might be the seer, it might cause paranoia. Next to Nogrod and Sally, those candidates are: Rikae, Nerwen, Fea, and Lal. Both wolves in that list?


Well, my current suspicions are thin, like butter spread over too much bread. I'll better go and reread to address that.