Tol-in-Gaurhoth L: Battle of the Fandoms

[McCaber]

So are we finally clear that Mac and Iare innocent? Good.

Now that we're all on the same page, I think I can afford to take it easy for a few hours and think it out for a while. 2 gifted and 8 other innocent versus 1 lone wolf - I like our odds.

And I figure that between the mob killings and the seer dreams we can kill/exonerate the five (or so) SPs (suspicious persons) remaining without much difficulty. I hope it doesn't come to that, though.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

My post didn't go through... I sent it through hours ago... maybe my internet acted up.

Now that it's 1 in the morning, I'm a bit tired and not inclined to re-type the whole thing. The gist: I still don't like Nogrod, but as Sally (really, dear? really?) was a wolf, it puts him in a more innocent light. I do like and agree with his list (even if I am on it, ).

Hopefully will post more on the morrow, depending on how early I wake up.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by McCaber

So are we finally clear that Mac and I are innocent?

Unless we're dealing with a wolf suicide squad.

*cues Lal's next theory*

And while we're on the subject of Lal...

Originally Posted by Lalwendë

I can't rule out page 4 because the evidence is that strong there. No need to look for any kind of mad theories, it's there. All you have to see is that two were going down and one had to be chosen - it's just working out which player thought which other player was in which role.

However I cannot see any reason why, apart from desperation, a wolf would vote WoW, so for me, this rules out Mac and McCaber completely. Anyone else still needs looking at.

This post is hurting my brain. Paragraph 2 appears to be a direct contradiction of paragraph 1.

What are you trying to say?

[Macalaure]

You know what makes me doubt the "Lal's the cobbler" theory? She still makes points (however contradictory they may be). Usually, if a cobbler has been identified correctly by a large number of people to the point that the cobbler's no longer listened to, the cobbler gives up on making points and turns to mere bothering instead.

I agree with pretty much all of Nogrod points above. I agree with Mith: Nerwen is creepy, and quite a lot. Rikae's thoughts still have to be summed up, so I'll go at that first.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Sally was her suspicion number two (shared place with Nilp).

ahem!

[Lalwendë]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

This post is hurting my brain. Paragraph 2 appears to be a direct contradiction of paragraph 1.

What are you trying to say?

Simply that put into a situation where you must choose between members of a wolf pack, voting WoW may have to happen. However, as a long term strategy, it would be suicidal. Therefore I can't get on board with the idea that a wolf would vote for another wolf more than once unless in the most desperate of circumstances - something we only really had once, on day 1.

That's why McCaber and Mac just can't be wolves - they'd have voted WoW more than once and haven't shown the possibility of being wolves in desperate circumstances.

However if you look at Page 4 then we see every likelihood of WoW voting. There is panic, suspicious questions and statements, and a last minute bandwagon traffic jam. There are no alibis you could pull out to defend yourself against what's on that page.

[Macalaure]

Rikae's positions are neatly summed up in #306, so I'll go along that list.

Wolvish are (apart from Sally, of course - Rikae deserves some kudos for picking her out correctly from the first day on!) McCaber, Nilp, and Izzy. McCaber now looks more than innocent, and I have a hard time seeing Nilp wolvish. Izzy might be worth a look, but my feeling speaks against her being in a pack with CaptainofDespair and Sally.
In her neutral category, she's also in the Lal-cobbler fraction, though a bit hesitating. Furthermore, there is she who I will not mention and Boro, who's much more innocent-looking now. Nerwen and Mith she is unsure of.
Nogrod, I, and Shasta are innocent to her. On Nogrod I agree, on Shasta I'll trust her for now (not that I would have found him suspicious before).

People who I think need to be inspected are Nerwen, Mith, and Izzy. Most likely the last wolf is in there.


edit: crossed with Nilp... oh!