Werewolf LIII: The Republic

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

I'm also toying with the idea of voting someone rather quiet just to force them to think and post.

Why to use a smilie when discussing an important point Lommy!

I mean that is exactly what I have been thinking... for this Day or maybe the next as well, depending on the overall situation.

Or maybe quietness is not the right factor but the kind of carefulness of some of us around. If we pick them as representatives they will have to take a stand.

I just realised this... Kath, would you like to be a representative?

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Why to use a smilie when discussing an important point Lommy!

I mean that is exactly what I have been thinking... for this Day or maybe the next as well, depending on the overall situation.

Or maybe quietness is not the right factor but the kind of carefulness of some of us around. If we pick them as representatives they will have to take a stand.

I just realised this... Kath, would you like to be a representative?

I used the smilie just because the idea occured to me right then and I was not sure if it was worth taking entirely seriously... But yes, like you say, why not? Just as long as it's someone we can trust will use his/her judgement and not just vote randomly... And in that case Kath is a good choice - smart but rather quiet. And besides, I love piling important decisions on her...

I'll have to think about this.

(And like you kind of said, I doubt this is a good arrangem,ent for days other than toDay or maybe toMorrow at most. Then the game will be getting a bit too serious for experiments like this...)

[Nogrod]

I guess Rune and Gil-Galad (surprise!) are the only ones who have not yet posted? Well, there are still hours to go but I do hope they join the game eventually.

Anyway, I looked over some of those who have not posted too much this far.

One post

Kath - Speaks how enthusiastic about this game she is and that's it. No posts after that. Laying low or just busy? Fits the general "Kath on Day1" scheme though... a bit too well - and that's why I'd like to see her as a representative toMorrow even if she might vote for me just out of the annoyance...

Nerwen - Only one post but offers an idea: either Shasta is in cahoots with tp or then Brinn as they are so extremely friendly - and no one would believe the wolves would be that obvious. A fair point looking at the time of the posting showing she's up to this game - even if I'd wish to see her post more. But I surely do wish to see her more so not someone I'd wish to see lynched toDay.

Gwath - Only posted to say "I'm reading but have nothing to contribute yet" - and that was 14 hours ago... RL and all may be factors and maybe we should not judge too heavily at this moment but he does look evasive indeed.

Two posts

Di - Makes a campaign why she should be voted as a representative. That makes her look more innocentish to me than not. Also her point on tp was reasonable even if limiting to being out of bounds and possibly misguided as well (judging from Fea's posting... butI'd underline the word possibly as there is no easy way to say what she actually means ). I'd say she's more innocent than not.

Sally - Sadly nothing to say. Just banter. Another representative-candidate for me.

Agan - Looks more innocent than not, even if there was not much in her two posts. She's one I wouldn't like to see go this early anyway as I know she can be an asset to the village when having more time and losing one of those on Day1 is always sad.

THe Ka - She seems to be one who always flies under my radar. Her first post is merely general stuff & banter and on the second one she just mildly agrees with Boro and tp. Maybe also a candidate for being a representative so that she would have to take a stance on something and give us more clues?


EDIT: Oops, X'd with a host of posting...

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Gwath - Only posted to say "I'm reading but have nothing to contribute yet" - and that was 14 hours ago... RL and all may be factors and maybe we should not judge too heavily at this moment but he does look evasive indeed.

It was true, though.

Currently, I think that I will either vote someone who does not want to be a rep, or vote myself.

EDIT: Can I do that? I assume I can.

[the phantom]

I'm thinking about my rep-selection just very generally at this point. I'm thinking that I would like to give my vote to someone who has talked, and has given opinions. Partly because anyone who becomes a rep seems, to me anyway, less likely to be lynched, for they will have the protection of their voting power.

And at this stage of the village I do not want to kill someone that I firmly believe I will form an opinion on in the coming days. It is true that my opinion of them may be incorrect, but I'd rather have an opinion and be wrong than feel entirely in the dark.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

I will [...] vote myself.

EDIT: Can I do that? I assume I can.

You can not.

[the phantom]

If you are indeed considering me as an option, I would have you know clearly where I stand on the idea of being a rep.

If made a rep, I would attempt to use my voting power to put pressure on others in order to get them to give opinions. Along the lines of "I'd like to vote for so-and-so, but if he steps up and gives me something maybe I won't".

As far as actual Wolf-voting success, I certainly can't promise much on a Day 1, and wouldn't be much more accurate than random selection. The clear advantage to choosing me is simply the fact that I am not a Werewolf.

However, as that fact cannot possibly be known or trusted coming from my mouth, that's not particularly convincing.

All told, I feel no need to campaign for the position of Rep. I'd be more comfortable in an advisory capacity. The only reason I feel compelled to wish for votes is simply for the sake of self-protection, and because I know that those votes might otherwise have supported a Werewolf. Of course that is to be balanced with the pressure I'd feel not to do something disasterous with my vote (lynch the Seer).

Anyway, that's where I stand. Nog- what are your feelings towards receiving my rep vote?

Boro? Legate? Anyone else?

EDIT: x-posted with Fea onward

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Boro? Legate? Anyone else?

Well, if you ask about receiving your vote, if you feel up to it - see, I will accept; the only thing worth considering is whether you consider it worth with my schedule, as I said (above - something like being here, and now it seems like rather briefly, in some 11 hours since now, and then for perhaps longer period some 6 hours before the DL itself). So - you can take that I make a responsible vote, as much as it will be possible (for that I suggest you go through my later post a bit to learn my "program" , as little as there is), but not count much on my participation in discussion during the course of the Day - only on several isolated moments, hours, let's say.

As for that, now in the light of what you said, I have to think once again about voting you. But that has time - also if Nog replies to me.

I would rather vote for really one of the more, hmm, vocal players, and those about whom I have some idea rather than complete enigmas, although I can see where Nog is going. Later.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

THe Ka - She seems to be one who always flies under my radar. Her first post is merely general stuff & banter and on the second one she just mildly agrees with Boro and tp. Maybe also a candidate for being a representative so that she would have to take a stance on something and give us more clues?

I think she might be a good choice. However, she's not my choice. I've decided to try

++Ilya for representative

Because I really want to know her better, and I would also welcome some fresh views in the final debates.

Originally Posted by Boro

When you signed up for this were you really expecting something different?

Well, honestly, no. But I like all of you, so don't be too worried, my dear Mr88.


edit: xed with Nogboot and phandoom

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

*sighs* It really looks like either Shasta or... do you have such a proverb in English? "Who cries the loudest not to do something, is first to do it?" (Along these lines.) I am still not placing aside Greenie, but there's the thing I said above. (And it has one practical disadvantage too, she'll have to post... hey, but that's not gonna matter now...) Otherwise, hmm... Nog, you said you are not much for being a Rep tomorrow? Time-wise?

I'll see how I long I stay around here yet... perhaps for long enough to make some clearer image of whom to vote (this is actually fine, as it sounds a lot better than in the usual context, even though the phrase used is the same). Hmm... may as well start to ask people considered...

EDIT: x-ed with those after Fea

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

hmm... Nog, you said you are not much for being a Rep tomorrow? Time-wise?

We have an essay-ranking meeting in the afternoon and I have no idea how long it will last. In the best case I'm free from early evening (like from 3-5PM GMT, +2 GMT to me that is) and in the worst I'll come home just a few hours before I have to go to sleep.

So I will definitively play tomorrow (RL) but the question is only whether I have time like I had today or whether it would be just reading it through and naking a few posts.

EDIT: "Naking a few points"? ... Making?

[THE Ka]

Originally Posted by Nog

Two posts

Correction, I've made three posts. Though, as if it makes a difference...

*shrug* If you want to vote this way, that's cool.

Sorry for the indifference, I'm hung up over whom I want to vote for now. Ilya is certainly appealing for pervious reasons I've mentioned already (repeating is annoying, frankly), but so are a few others.

Plus, a little bit of difference on the take of things between base and representative would more than likely force others and I to have an opinion. Especially if said representative acted in a way that I dissagreed with.
I'm liking the idea of a healthy dose of friction as a self-help. It might seem a gamble, but I guess that's what I get for working at a casino.

++Boro88 for Representative

I've always liked Boro88's level of common sense, even if it's not exactly how I or whom I trust as innocent see the situation. Plus, I agree with his point of action on that representatives are not going to morph into something completely different just because they have their own playing field later on.

Habits taken in, I'm horribly notorious for being an observer and probably too cautious. It definately works some of the time, but I like the idea of my representative taking a risk, and thus making myself more involved and opiniated. I'm not definate of anyone's real role just yet, but I know if something bothers me enough I form more of an action and want to help problem-solve.


Okay, I have to leave for work and bring food to poker players. Later.

~ Ka