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Old 07-13-2009, 09:40 AM   #1
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Thingol and Melian begat what?

Assume then a Maiar that joined Melkor from the beginning. Mate this being with any other being (elf, dwarf, ent, man, animal, etc) and see what happens. If Melian could take a form that was compatible with Thingol, biologically-speaking, then why couldn't a Maia bent on some hellish plan take a form to allow for the begetting of some new hybrid species?

This explanation would also account for balance in the realm of Arda (Ents - trolls, elves - orcs, eagles - winged beasts, Bombadil - ...).
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Old 08-16-2009, 08:15 AM   #2
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Thingol and Melian begat what?
An elf.

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Assume then a Maiar that joined Melkor from the beginning. Mate this being with any other being (elf, dwarf, ent, man, animal, etc) and see what happens. If Melian could take a form that was compatible with Thingol, biologically-speaking, then why couldn't a Maia bent on some hellish plan take a form to allow for the begetting of some new hybrid species?
In the case mentioned above, and if the logic holds, the Maiar in question would have to assume a compatible form (ent, elf, etc.), in order to mate, and therefore would produce an expected offspring (ent, elf, etc.).
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Old 08-18-2009, 10:08 AM   #3
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An elf.
Was she 'just' an elf? Somehow Lúthien's genes are a little different from the rest of the First or Second born.

But let's work with that. Melian wasn't an elf, but obviously made herself appear - physically, mechanically - enough like an elf to beget a child. Take some other maia that's not so nice. Have this evil being take a form enough like an elf to create offspring, but not like an elf in appearance due to its more evil nature. What could we get from that union?

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See above. Mate the offspring of multiple elf-evil maia unions, select for the nastier ones; mate them to each other; repeat as necessary.
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Old 08-18-2009, 12:01 PM   #4
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