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Flame of the Ainulindalë
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Uh-oh... This doesn't make any sense. I mean really. There was that "you are no seer" -thing, but that's basically the only thing one could say that would hint towards her being the seer. So the wolves got really lucky this time. But getting lucky doesn't explain why they chose her. For some actual reason or just to confuse us? Okay. One scenario: like someone said already, maybe they were taking even more heat than we know? Making a totally odd kill would keep us going around the subject for quite a while - and thus we might let our main suspicions from yesterDay to recede? Well I'm not impressed by that interpretation but at the moment I can't think of a better one. Btw. I do appreciate the effort of trying to figure out whom she dreamt of but as you can see, Greenie was clearly intentionally ambiguous about her knowledge... to a point we have no way of "knowing" anything from her posting (we should read her closely and try to form some opinions of them to be sure but I'm afraid that we can't quite trust those interpretations fully). It's always a bit unfair to speak bad of the dead, but I really think she should have been a tad more forthcoming with her knowledge. Maybe she felt she was safe, but going to N4 without giving even one clear hint is a little reckless. And really, toying with a scenario. If I was a wolf and she had dreamt of me wouldn't she have said that openly? She would have gotten at least one more dream and the wolves would be down to one after you lynched me toDay. Also she could have thus given us all the known innocents (or even the last wolf!) she had clear and openly and not leave us into this interpretation-game over them. I do think Greenie is smart enough to have gathered that. Okay. I have to run now but I'll be back in the evening (RL). (~~~) *grin vanishing*
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Massive disagreement with Nogrod:
1) Greenie's smart, but because she was suspected so much and she hadn't posted anything obviously seerish (as we have noticed when trying to analyse her dreams), I think she would've dared not to come out, especially if she had lost one dream (dreamt of someone who died) at some point, which is an option we have to keep in mind. 2) Looking at a seer's posts is never a bad thing. You may be pessimistic (or a wolf), but I'm not. I have correctly interpreted a dead seer's dreams before and Greenie is just a tad more difficult challenge. You of all people should remember this (remember the last game you modded?). There's no way for us to find the absolute truth about Greenie's dreams, but we can make good guesses which can help us in our suspicions. A bit the same way a wolf's fellow wolves can't be absolutely logically found out from his/her posts but we can make good guesses to one way or another... Besides, currently we could even afford to be misguided for a Day or two and people tend to rethink things in the light of new events. ![]()
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Lottie
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Again I keep saying it because I'm excited I never list reasons why I voted the way I did? I did list them. I found Sally suspicious and after reading I believe your analysis it seemed confirmed. I voted Glirdan because of Sally's post it made NO sense any other way for me. and Winty voted because of a first post vote followed by "Day 1 who cares"
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However, you are exaggerating a bit there, Lottie: in fact he put forward quite serviceable reasons of his own for voting Glirdan here. As for Nogrod, I am seriously considering voting him after his last post (#587). "Working out the dead Seer's dreams? What a waste of time!" ![]() But I haven't done Day 3 yet, so I'll just have to do my best not to let it bias my judgement.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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Thanks Nerwen... But I've fallen for your flattery before *glares* I'm not this time
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I see you are making bad calculations... I actually disagree with the massiveness of your disagreement... ![]() Quote:
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Sadly she didn't give us that option which probably tells us that she had a) no wolves, and b) she had less than three innocents. But yes, I truly agree that we should speculate about the possible dreams - I actually said it in my post back there - but you Lommy seem to be picky with what you take into account and what you don't... And I also agree that we can afford a mislynch or two right now looking at the numbers. Surely the only way for me to prove I'm right is that you lynch me, and well that's okay. As I said, we can afford a mislynch. I understand the situation perfectly well. But I do recommend you fight over it and then when I'm dead you draw your conclusions based on what people thought of my lynching. Surely I'd like to stay around for a Day or two as fex. toMorrow I would have time to really delve into this, but well that's not up to me. Anyway Lommy's trigger-happiness has raised her up in my suspicions quite a lot. There were some other things I thought I'd say but I have forgotten. I'll go back to the thread and be right back. (~~~) *grin vanishing* EDIT: X'd with Agan & Legate
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Nog is not mounting the aggressive counter-attack that I've come to expect when he's innocent and stands accused.
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And where's your effort Agan? Oh, the moral highground is such a slippery thing... Why don't you try and go find the wolves? Are you so happy with the presumed outcome that you can just lay back and enjoy? Heh, I was actually going through the posting toDay to make some remarks on them, So maybe I'll finish with it anyway and not make my threat of resigning quite that real. ![]() Quote:
Some people here might tell you about it. ![]() (~~~) *grin vanishing*
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shadow of a doubt
Join Date: Jan 2008
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On Morsul
Could Morsul's early votes mean something? I've noticed that the people catching the most flack so far are the people who've been active right up until the deadline and voted late. The Europeans have stayed out of most people's suspicions, maybe in part because of this? We of course have good reasons to vote rather early as the DL is in the middle of the night, but for Morsul not so.
Maybe he figures that by being his incoherent self and voting early, sometimes for his fellow wolves, he might just soldier on as a minor but harmless disturbance? And what to make of all this. First he proclaims to have all the time in the world: Quote:
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Insane for offering them up for the slaugher, eh? Yes, that may well be the case. A working theory of mine is that Shasta and Morsul are the remaining wolves. But if they are that seems like too bold a plan, especially if it's been made before hand. Hm... Gotta vote soon.
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Is here, vainly trying to make some sense of of this...
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And why not Lottie? Two reasons I can think of. Maybe they think the ranger will protect her every other night and that the risk of missing out on a kill is too great. Or that the people Lottie now suspects are innocent, and that she's likely to cause as much bloodshed among the villagers as she already has among the wolves. I'm not so sure who's on top of Lottie's suspect list any longer though. Morsul's odd though, wouldn't you say? Can't give this too much time but I will look into some of his statements now. There seems to be a pattern to his seemingly erratic behaviour, one that tempts me to cry... what is the word again ... oh yes wolf.
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