WW LXXX: It's About Time!

[Pitchwife]

Got home late and just caught up. Some quick thoughts:

I couldn't find anything that would have looked particularly Seerish in Shasta's few posts, but I'm puzzled by this:

Originally Posted by Fea #101

If Shasta was killed for looking Seerish, this exonerates Lottie, since Shasta said she might be the cobbler, and the wolves would not know who the cobbler is, nor would Shasta-seer be able to actually tell the difference between cobbler and ordo.

Where did Shasta say anything about Lottie being the cobbler? All I could find was this:

Originally Posted by Shasta #34

I could easily vote for Lottie, though - she's said next to nothing which is entirely unlike her.

No mention of cobblery here.

(Speaking of Lottie, I too would be very interested in hearing what those checks she mentioned were based on, and how she got from giving Fea 'four cobbler checks' to 'almost definitely not' voting her.)

Originally Posted by Nerwen #104

If Elf had turned out innocent, this would have looked like one blatant, eeevilll bandwagon.

Yep. When I read the thread and saw the votes piling up against him, my first thought was 'Oh no, another Blind Guardian!' - only this time it turned out lucky. So I totally understood sally's reservations against it.

Originally Posted by Boro #120

And you know, if one of the late voters after him was a fellow packmate, he should have felt a bit of security. Which begs the question, maybe he had no packmates left to vote and he was really feeling the heat?

Possible. If so, this would obviously speak for wilwa, Lottie and (by lucky coincidence) yourself.

As for wolvish involvement in the TEWagon, I have a hard time imagining that they would sacrifice one of their own so early. If he'd been a little further ahead in the votes, I could see a packmate deciding he was burnt meat anyway and giving him the final push, but with him and Fea being tied until Boro's decisive vote, that doesn't seem plausible.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Where did Shasta say anything about Lottie being the cobbler?

You know, I have no idea. I just searched every single one of Shasta's posts and didn't find anything, and then I reread my post summarizing all the interactions he had with people and the things people said about him, and I have NO clue where I got that. I think I must have been in the middle of writing something and started reading or thinking about something different, and the thoughts combined.

Perhaps it's because others have mentioned Lottie as a possible cobbler suspect? Honestly, I'm quite ashamed at that oversight. I mean, I summarized all of Shasticle's posts myself, like three sentences before my brain spontaneously decided to attribute that statement to Shasta.

Sorry about that.

Well, there goes that entire argument about Shasta's death more or less exonerating Lottiepop...

I've been thinking all day about how Shasta "said" Lottie might be the cobbler. Brain-fail.

Now I'll need to re-think, but I haven't been home very long, so rethinking will have to come pretty quickly to meet deadline...