Ten Year Anniversary Game: Living Thread

[Boromir88]

Assuming that, I agree with the phantom: the spokesperson is whoever gives a reasonable list when the voting is done. It doesn't matter whether person X or person Y gets the extra vote, when both voted for person Z. It also doesn't matter which meaning we assign to empowering person X or person Y, as long as we're clear on it before DL. - Rikae

We should be able to set up a fail safe too, just in case relayed information via the Dead vote gets tampered with, or in the event the Dead are innocents who know the identity of a living wolf, or a living gifted, we don't know and thus vote accordingly to lynch/save someone. Some sort of fall back to let the Living know "We the Dead, for whatever reason, did not get the information your spokesperson requested. Abort and disregard our vote."

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

We should be able to set up a fail safe too, just in case relayed information via the Dead vote gets tampered with, or in the event the Dead are innocents who know the identity of a living wolf, or a living gifted, we don't know and thus vote accordingly to lynch/save someone. Some sort of fall back to let the Living know "We the Dead, for whatever reason, did not get the information your spokesperson requested. Abort and disregard our vote."

Yeah, that's what I was getting at with "at least 3 people in the wagon" earlier. So there is a "neutral" way for the dead to join that particular wagon, if they wish, too.
So, we shouldn't be putting the "signals" into bandwagons of less than 3.

Nog, the only way it's flimsy and far-fetched is if someone insists on jumping in and arguing needlessly about what vote should mean what (and anyone who does that looks very, very furry). As long as the dead have enough options, whatever the first person says should be fine.

[Formendacil]

I'm fading fast from this waking world--which is quite unfair since I still have a good five hours or more on the Europeans--and I don't have a firm idea of who to vote for. If we go for actually lynching someone, my gut says to go with the 50% chance of Agan/Lommy over the 25% chance of "Just Anyone," but that's hardly fair to spring at the last minute after they've gone to bed--and grounded to begin with in a tenuous gut feeling that one of them is probably guilty.

Basically, my suspect list looks something like:

Too Little Information to Guess:

-Some of these people have posted more than others, but they're all still close enough to blank slates to me:
Kath
Shasta
Boromir
Mithalwen
Rune
Sally
McCaber
Eomer
Nerwen
Nilp
Loslote
Firefoot
Lalaith
Greenie
Gwath

The Others:
Morm - In general, he seems sensible, but none of his opinions have stood out one way or another. Good camouflage for a wolf?
Nogrod - The brashest personality offering commentary/suggestions today (setting Lommy and Agan aside). That makes me wary of him, but I think that's his style anyway--and I've agreed with enough of what he said.
Lommy - She seems a bit too defensive, but that's not reason enough to lynch her. I incline to think her more innocent that not.
Aganzir - Slightly more innocent than guilty to me--more flippant than defensive is the vibe I'm getting, for whatever little that's worth. She has the votes (as of starting this post) that we get a tie-waggon rolling between me and her, but I don't see that taking off giving the village response thus far.
The Phantom - Oddly enough, I don't think of him as a wolf, so he probably is one--or worse, he's probably the Special Role and he's playing the a Werebear-Mythomancer. But that's not a concrete reason to lynch him on Day 1--and if we'll regret having him alive, we may regret having him take over the Dead Thread from the beginning just as likely...
Mac - I've liked the statistics, but I'm not honestly sure what he's actually said beyond offering them.
Rikae - Ought to be up with the "Insufficient Information" crew, probably, but posted late enough in the day that my attention has been flagged and... I'm not sure: hasn't said anything alarming, but I agree that something feels off about that... but it's nebulous.
Legate - Similar to Morm in that I think he's contributed but in a camouflaged manner. I probably shouldn't trust him, but for now I do...


Vote coming next post or so, most likely...

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Folks, please stop assuming people are trying to dictate to the dead!

Originally Posted by Rikae

the idea is that the dead have a choice. That way the dead can both cast a vote and send an additional message.
And as for me, if/when I end up on the dead thread, I'd prefer to have as much ability to get information to the living as possible. In fact, I would be rather frustrated with (and suspicious of) anyone who muddles that process.

Originally Posted by Rikae

It doesn't matter who decides how the message will be sent. It doesn't require elaborate choosing of spokespeople, just an agreement well before the deadline.

Originally Posted by Rikae

It's interesting how many people are arguing that it either can't be done or is somehow oppressive. And by interesting, I mean suspicious.

Originally Posted by Rikae

the spokesperson is whoever gives a reasonable list when the voting is done. It doesn't matter whether person X or person Y gets the extra vote, when both voted for person Z. It also doesn't matter which meaning we assign to empowering person X or person Y, as long as we're clear on it before DL.

Originally Posted by Rikae

As long as the dead have enough options, whatever the first person says should be fine.

Yes. Yes to everything.

Nog and others- if you are good and Rikae is evil, I do wonder what your excuse is for being so clearly dominated when it comes to exercising common sense. Rikae is just hitting it out of the park.

People seem to be trying to make things more difficult than they have to be. It's like we're trying to hand you a weapon and you don't want to take it.

[the phantom]

Can someone start at the beginning and explain why Agan is suspicious? I just skimmed over the exchange and it looks like she's suspected because she made a joke, and then she is further suspected because she didn't like being suspected for making a joke. Is that accurate or am I missing something?

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Can someone start at the beginning and explain why Agan is suspicious? I just skimmed over the exchange and it looks like she's suspected because she made a joke, and then she is further suspected because she didn't like being suspected for making a joke. Is that accurate or am I missing something?

What I got is she used the word "kill" instead of "lynch," and morm half-jokingly asked her if that was a Freudian slip, because a wolf would likely see the "lynch" from the POV as "killing."

I didn't read Agan's response carefully enough, but Lommy interpreted her reaction to it as even worse than an innocent Freudian slip.