Ten Year Anniversary Game: Living Thread

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

We can hardly pat ourselves on the back for lynching the phantomwolf on Day1 if we do it just because he's the phantom. Also I'm starting to get a little suspicious of Nog's push to lynch the phantom despite not even suspecting him. Just, why would you do that?

I agree it's not the most beautiful way of getting rid of a phantomwolf on D1 to do it "just because" - but it would be a remarkable deed anyway.

But looking at this game (with the Dead Thread aka. no one is actually booted out of the game - and that changes everything) I still wonder how differently people think. I mean I'm happy to go to the Dead Thread as I have nothing to worry (if I'm lynched no gifted is lynched - and lynching a wolf is anyway a remarkable deed - so an innocent goes every now and then) and I think an innocent tp would think the same as well. But he clearly doesn't - and that's why I suspect him.

So Lommy: I do suspect him and made the point in my post up there (#172) - like Agan he was overly defensive in his quick reactions.

Originally Posted by Rikae

Nog, the only way it's flimsy and far-fetched is if someone insists on jumping in and arguing needlessly about what vote should mean what (and anyone who does that looks very, very furry). As long as the dead have enough options, whatever the first person says should be fine.

It may be I'm missing something from this ingenious plan of yours, but it looks dowright doomed. Why would the dead pick the choices of the living? Why would they go for a "neutral voter" if they had better plans? How would we orchestrate it that they'd be forced to do our picking? How do you tell, if the "decision" of the dead is made by well informed majority of innocents?

The dead will basically know 1/3 of the roles - well alignments - there's a lot of rom for distraction, tom-foolery, laziness, well made plots etc. to twist the vote of the dead not being what the Living would like it to be - or think they could interpret it to be.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

It may be I'm missing something from this ingenious plan of yours, but it looks dowright doomed.

It's basically the phantom's plan, in this post.

Not that I trust the phantom, necessarily, but it's a plan that can get us some of the dead's information, and therefore, a good idea.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Why would the dead pick the choices of the living?

I'm not sure what you mean. The living would finish voting early, so the dead would already know who voted for whom before choosing who to empower.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Why would they go for a "neutral voter" if they had better plans?

There would be more than one "neutral" choice.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

How would we orchestrate it that they'd be forced to do our picking?

Forced to do our picking? I'm not sure what you mean by that at all.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

How do you tell, if the "decision" of the dead is made by well informed majority of innocents?

I addressed the dead wolves issue here and Nilp did here.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

The dead will basically know 1/3 of the roles - well alignments - there's a lot of rom for distraction, tom-foolery, laziness, well made plots etc. to twist the vote of the dead not being what the Living would like it to be - or think they could interpret it to be.

So, you'd rather get less information from them? That doesn't sound like you, Nog. Next thing, you'll be telling the living to post less, because loud wolves create confusion!


Oooh, refreshed and saw this:

Originally Posted by the phantom

Nog and others- if you are good and Rikae is evil, I do wonder what your excuse is for being so clearly dominated when it comes to exercising common sense. Rikae is just hitting it out of the park.

Buttering me up, eh? Wolfish. True, but wolfish.

[Rikae]

Ha!

"True" that I'm hitting it out of the park. Not the "Rikae is evil" part.

[satansaloser2005]

Huh. So that happened.

Phantom I understand -who doesn't want to kill Phantom- but why Rune?

[Rikae]

Rune seemed very opposed to a Day 1 vote, and I got the feeling he was worried he'd end up on the chopping block.

I could see someone thinking that was seerish.

[Rikae]

I mean a Day 1 lynch. As opposed to a tie.

[Nerwen]

I'll look Rune's posts over. (Not phantom's. I mean, come on!)

In other news, I think the narration indicates both Lovers are still alive.

[Macalaure]

First thoughts.

tp was mostly occupied with his scheming, not wolf-hunting. He did suspect four people in #130: Nogrod, Loslote, Firefoot, and me. His innocent list contains exactly four people as well, interestingly. If he was the seer, he would have left some hidden hint as to which two of those four people were actually guilty. I don't see one, however. Maybe it's somewhere I didn't look.

But why was he killed? Just because he looked innocent (many argued with him, but I don't recall anyone suspecting him) and made himself the village leader? Possible. Or maybe there is in fact a wolf (or even two? wishful thinking) among his four suspects. Did Nogrod's mates take revenge? Did wolf-Lottie or wolf-Firefoot get nervous? Possible, but it doesn't seem likely.

Rune didn't do much, but he was, well, tense, without much reason. Could be the wolves took that as a sign of giftedness. His vote was for Formendacil, but it doesn't look like the vote was because he dreamt of him, but just because he was there. He also suspected Greenie, but again, not in a way that looks seer-ish to me. If he was gifted, then he wasn't the seer, and obviously not the hunter either. Losing ranger or lovers this early would hurt us. They're not bringing anything of value back to us at this point.

The voting yesterDay was interesting. A bunch of odd votes for Formendacil, then the bandwaggon for Aganzir, which was overtaken by the Nogrod express train.

Form giving himself the third vote makes it very unlikely that he's gifted (I think I may say this much openly), but I also think it makes it unlikely for him to be a wolf. Very risky move there, and without any pressure.

Aganzir remains suspicious to me, which, before Nogrod started receiving votes, makes me wonder why none of her mates voted for Form. Maybe they already voted earlier, maybe they were waiting, or maybe she's not a wolf after all.

In any case, I think the early Nogrod voters are actually quite innocent-looking at the moment (yes, I know, wolves hunt wolves in this game). There were simply easier targets available to them at that point.

I'm grasping straws a little.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Rikae

Rune seemed very opposed to a Day 1 vote, and I got the feeling he was worried he'd end up on the chopping block.

I could see someone thinking that was seerish.

I suppose that's possible. So is the rival wolf pack perhaps thinking he was trying to delay a lynch to give the baddies an advantage.

I'll have a go through his posts before I head off to bed. Back soon.

[Firefoot]

I only have about five minutes to post right now, so sorry I can't be more helpful with quotes and references.

I was looking at the way the Nogrod bandwagon developed and it's really quite odd. Both phantom and B88 mention suspicions of him back on page 4, which is where Nogrod started gaining suspicion, but still most people were somewhere in between "maybe suspicious but not gonna vote for him" and "seems ok" with their read on him. The people who voted for him are mostly really conspicuously absent from that discussion (they weren't posting at all though so it could be a timezone/timing thing). That makes Lottie, Eomer, Shasta, and Satan all potentially suspicious to me - at least worthy of a closer look.

Also, finally realized now that Lottie is loslote. And given that, she also mentions a suspicion of Nogrod on page 5 before the voting really gets going.

[Macalaure]

Writing stuff down as I go through the early day posting.

There's something odd going on in #247,248,250:
First, Sally suggests Rune might have been a wolf killed by the other wolves. I'm not following her reasoning really. Also, I don't think that's their priority yet.
Then Morm is all over it for this reason, which is ok, but also because she's "trying to make a case against a dead man". How else are we going to figure something out at this point before we get any evidence back from the dead?
Then Lottie is all over morm for being "weirdly defensive", making him highly suspicious. I get criticizing him, but that's too quick over too little.

...aaand then Greenie mentions the exact same thing, just more eloquently. Well, actually not the exact same thing, since I'm raising half an eyebrow at morm, too.


Firefoot, I really don't think you can base any suspicions on whether people wanted a tied vote or not. I mean, you yourself give reason why both goodies and baddies could be for or against it.

Originally Posted by Firefoot

He spends a lot of time on statistics, which could be an innocent actually being helpful or a wolf trying to look helpful without actually contributing to the discussion of who’s who

I'll gladly admit that I wasn't actually helpful yet at that point. I even admitted it yesterDay. It was early-ish Day1, and a good part of the village hadn't even posted yet.

Originally Posted by Firefoot

Seems easily swayed (#168, #188) – bandwagoning? Or just confused innocent.

Because I read what other people post and it changes my opinion of them? Shocker...

Originally Posted by Firefoot

Then at the end he seems almost gleeful about Nogrod’s death, which sat poorly with me.

I wasn't gleeful. I feel genuinely bad for the man. In the last dead thread -type game, he was lynched right away early on, too.

Originally Posted by Nerwen

The tone of this, now, seems oddly confident of how the wolves reasoned and oddly specific.

I suspected Rune yesterDay because his tone felt off. Then I realized it might be because he's gifted, so I backed off quietly. I guess I'm projecting my thoughts on the wolves?

Originally Posted by Lalaith

Who is saved by this flurry? Aganzir.

That's why the later Nog votes (Eomer, Shasta, Sally) bother me more than the earlier ones (Boro, tp, maybe Loslote). For the later it was an easy way to pile votes, for the earlier it was a risk.

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I love that Macalaure took the trouble to consider that I might be a gifted before he decided to vote for me.

I didn't consider it, I dismissed it.

Originally Posted by Legate

I sincerely doubt the WWs would have killed him just because he told them to do so. Who would!!!

First rule of Werewolf: Don't do what the phantom tells you to do.
Can we edit the werewolf sticky?

Actually, though, the beginning of Legate's post 270 doesn't sit right with me. It's almost all about why the phantom was the one and only logical choice for the wolves (highly debateable), and then he concludes that phantom must have been a wolf because both packs didn't go for him (jumping to conclusion). I mean, come on.

Originally Posted by Legate

One thing is also that I am not sure how much would WWs try to save a fellow by a bandwagon in this game in such a visible manner.

Without having roles revealed, they might be able to get away with it for longer than usual. Unfortunately.

Originally Posted by Legate

there probably would be at least one baddie among the Nog voters - regardless of Nog's actual role and the role of the bandwagon. Just too good a bandwagon to pass,

What makes it any better than the other bandwaggons? It was rushed, last minute, and awfully obvious. I'd actually say it was a bad one to hide in.


About phantom hinting at hunter-ism with his "kill me" post. Hunters have awfully bad chances early in the game, and the phantom should know this, and therefore would not make a post like that until he has a thorough grasp on who to take down with him, which I don't think he had yet. Of course, this doesn't mean the wolves didn't interpret it this way.


Previewing my post... what an ugly mess of quotes and comments. I offer apologies.

[Thinlómien]

Macalaure seems horribly... mischevious? Carefree? I think that might be indicative of him being an ordo who's just decided to enjoy the ride.

Originally Posted by Boro

For example, if they were able to uncover phantom's role last night, then toDAY we could set up something like...

if you discovered tp is a predator give an extra vote to someone in the Day 1 Aganwagon.

If tp is a pretty give the extra vote to someone in the Day 1 Nogwagon.

...etc

Wait - the only works from toMorrow on, right? Because last Night Nogrod would have hardly alone uncovered he role of... Nogrod.

Originally Posted by Eomer

One small point: Lommy's post #271 mistakenly quotes me. I don't know who posted those words but it certainly wasn't me.

Oops, I'm sorry! I checked, it was Boro. I added a correction to the quote so it shouldn't confuse anyone anymore.

Originally Posted by Form

In the cold light of day, the Agan/Lommy spat seems to have vanished as quickly as it started,which is either proof of innocence or a sign of Nightly discussion in my mind, which makes me think for the first time that they might be littermates.

Well, we're not arguing anymore but thre has been nothing to lessen my suspicion of Aganzir, and to be honest I don't have very many other leads before I sit down to think a bit more.

*off to do that next*

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Rikae

But anyway, you're being sloppy (deliberately or not) lumping me in with "the wolf-on-wolf people"

Hmm? *goes to read again*

Originally Posted by Rikae, yesterDay

I would think the Lommy vs. Agan stuff looked wolf-on-wolfy, if this were a game where that made sense.

Ugh, yeah... reading comprehension. Never mind that part.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Some quick reactions to a few things I found suspicious or worthy of attention that I bumped into as I read...

Originally Posted by Loslote

Furthermore, I think the fact that the second person killed was tp is telling. I doubt the wolves thought tp was Gifted - unless they figured he was bluffing, or double bluffing, or whatever, but that's a hard loop to get into when it's all centered around tp. My thought is that, if the pack which killed tp had had a solid lead on a Gifted, they would have gone with that over tp. Therefore, I don't think it's a terrible assumption to say that neither pack had a solid lead on a Gifted last Night, and that both went with other options.

Oho! Well here is a suspicious thing if I have ever seen one. This sounds exactly like a Wolf accidentally telling about what they were telling their packmates at Night. "Our pack didn't have a solid lead on Gifted, so that's what happened." Just a note, but made Lottie jump further on my list.

Originally Posted by mormegil

I don't think the idea should be written off either, however as I've indicated it's much more likely they were trying to target a potential seer than a wolf from a different pack. What bothered me about Sally's post was how she immediately jumped to that conclusion that "Well they must have thought Rune was a wolf". Why must that have been the immediate conclusion? You don't strike me as suspicious because you are looking at other sides and sticking your neck out a bit. But when such an early post comes to an immediate and seemingly definitive conclusion that is somewhat counter-intuitive and the other possibility isn't even consider, yes I will consider that suspicious.

And this also a bit. The second part ("you don't strike me as suspicious...") is suddenly quite defensive, quite unnecessarily, I would say.

Originally Posted by Rikae

The wishy-washiness of Firefoot's suspicions is the sort that often strikes me as wolfy fishing "let's put forward some candidates but not commit, see if anyone nibbles".

Agreed. Personally I do not know what to make of Firefoot, it isn't particularly striking impression, but the bit of wishy-washiness is there.

Originally Posted by Formendacil

In the cold light of day, the Agan/Lommy spat seems to have vanished as quickly as it started,which is either proof of innocence or a sign of Nightly discussion in my mind, which makes me think for the first time that they might be littermates.

Interesting opinion! Wouldn't have occured to me, but at least on purely theoretical basis, why not. I am not too inclined to believe it, but it is possible.

Originally Posted by Rikae

Just popping in to say I'm not particularly happy with the options at the moment. I don't have much time but how do others feel about Firefoot, and about Lottie? These loud, controversial people - Agan, Mac - seem less and less wolfish to me, and I don't see much of a case against Morm.

I just mentioned Lottie above (and Firefoot too, in fact), I am not sure if I would really go so far to vote for them. Mac does not seem any less suspicious to me than before, there is an aura of uncertainity about him, although too, he wouldn't yet probably get my vote. My top suspect still remains to be Greenie, and in regards to what she said herself, I think I could rephrase: it isn't really that she is being nice, it is that she is too happy. And if there is anything she is happy about, it's being a Werewolf. It's simply the whole behavior and attitude, while also stirring the pot without being involved in any horrible brawl (which could get her under scrutiny) and being noncommital.

I will probably post a list of what I think of everyone now, also for personal clarification.

EDIT: x-ed with the last few

[Thinlómien]

It's really quite impossible to make much sensible stuff out of yesterDay's votes without knowing Nogrod's role (grumble grumble).

Agan is unlikely to be in cahoots with Mith, Mccaber or Mac (hard to imagine the wolves would aim to sacrifice each other because it doesn't even make them look good with the undisclosed roles).

Likewise it's unlikely Nogrod's packmates were the phantom, Lottie, Shasta, Eomer or Sally.

Form does look innocent.

...and that's it.

Now, as I still think it's pretty likely Agan is a wolf (yes, my reason might seem like a small thing, but 1) it's this kind of small things that are actual clues and 2) it's not like I have a better idea), I'm going to sacrifice a moment for thinking who might (have) be(en) her packmate.

Basically it boils down to the nogawagon bunch: the phantom, Lottie, Shasta, Eomer and Sally.

Interestingly enough, I already suspected Sally yesterDay. This hardly makes her look better to me. Lottie? Shasta? Eomer? Hmmm, maybe. Entertaining myself with the idea that the phantom was Agan's packmate and tried to save her. (Yes, he would totally do that, especially in a game like this.) Then the other wolfgang () killed him, would've served him right.

But really, the above is just all flimsy speculation...

A quick list, including the dead:

(reasoning attached if it hasn't been mentioned before or is other than gut feeling/ general impression)

Innocent
Lalaith
Mac
Legate
Rikae - I disagree with them a lot but I think they're likely innocent
Form - I disagree with him a lot but I think he's very likely innocent
morm
Rune
Nilp

Questionable
Greenie - she just seems too sensible to me?
Firefoot - I agree she's throwing wishy washy suspicion around
Shasta
Eomer
Lottie
the phantom
Nogrod
Kath
Gwath
McCaber
Nerwen
Mith

Wolfy
Agan
Sally
Boro - he's starting to rub me the wrong way really bad toDay; he just seems terribly fake (sorry muffin)

That was very substantial. I don't know if I should really just go with my gut/ the few points I've noticed and accept this is a different kind of game, or whether I should feel properly shamed about my lack of analytical thinking and do something about it.

I mean, I DO think I'm onto something with Agan so it's not like my brain's not working, but I'm still not very happy about the fact that my suspicion list looks very similar to how it looked like late yesterDay - toDay has hardly changed anything so far.

Sorry if this post seems like it was written by a scatterbrain, that's how I feel. (I've had a long day and too little sleep three nights in a row. Definitely going to bed earlier today. Meaning, soon.)


edit. xed with everyone

[Lalaith]

So...yesterday I was feeling that Greenie made sense and this hasn't changed today. Nerwen and Loslote also seem mostly clear and helpful - (although having said that, Loslote's post 260 completely lost me, and did Nerwen explain her missing the vote yesterday?).
Rikae and Lommy fluctuate between clarity and obscurity. Firefoot seems to me to be chasing red herrings but that doesn't necessarily mean she's guilty - in a mad game like this, one woman's red herring is another's vital clue. Legate confused me yesterday and still continues to do so today. Half the time he seems to be setting up an argument only to knock it down. Boro and Mac make me uneasy. The rest, I don't know.

Having said all that, I am still pursuing the thesis I began to set up this morning. Yes, the Nog bandwaggon probably contains at least one wolf but it is very difficult to decide who they/he/she was. Aganzir looks the most ropey to me, not just because of her behaviour and not just because the Nog bandwaggon saved her, but because the Nog bandwaggon only began once he'd named her as someone he would vote for.
So, because unlike some of my fellow Europeans I do not have the steely stamina to stay at my keyboard til dawn, I'm going to vote now.
++Aganzir

edit: x-post with Lommy

[Rikae]

Well, I have a minute and neither of them posted much, so:

Loslote:

Day 1

12 - Banter
22 - Arguing against tying the vote. Interesting reasoning: if we can lynch a wolf from each pack, the wolves will turn on each other instead of trying to kill gifteds, so we should take a chance to lynch a wolf, or so I gather. Seems an odd line of reasoning - we want to lynch a wolf in general, after all, and the wolves are against each other already (or at least, want to whittle the other pack down), and even if they are down one, they are most likely to prioritize the seer while s/he is at large in any event. So, odd. Maybe wolfish, just for thinking in terms of whittling down (the other) wolf pack.
23 - Clarifies about responding to phantom.
28 - False reveal is unlikely, but possible. Concerned about the dead deceiving us.
48 - Village has a 25% chance of lynching a wolf, wolves at night have a 15% chance. Actually wrong (though I didn't realize it at the time) because of the two kills: it's actually 27.75 that the wolves kill a wolf. Also, the wolves had a higher chance of killing a gifted than the 25% she gives: 43.75% (wow).
Could just be mistaken math. I thought it was right at first, too. However, it does mislead.
54 -Against a tie because of last post, also against letting dead decide lynch (so that people leave trails with their votes).
196 -Doesn't think Agan is suspicious, suspects Nog. Pre-Nogawagon.
205 -Don't rule Nog, Agan, Lommy out for being in the spotlight. because it's their playing style.
220 - Votes Nog.

Overall, looks safe, fairly consistent in pursuing Nog (little too consistent? I'm not sure), said some misleading things. Bad vibes.

Day 2

250 - Sally's theory about Rune being killed for looking wolfish not too far fetched. Well, it is far fetched (says me). Far-fetched theories are a specialty of Sally's, though, so I find Lottie's defense of it (and subsequent suspicion of Morm) much more worrying.
260 - Theorizing that a third packmate (not Morm) was implicated by Rune's death, and Morm's trying to protect that person. Ok, this is getting really convoluted and is based on something unlikely (Rune being a wolf) in the first place. Looks like trying to patch together a theory after the fact. Innocents can do that too sometimes, of course, to back up a hunch or an unformed impression. No conclusion.
293 - Continues defending her theory. Now, I agree with her that wolves don't just go for gifteds, but it remains their top priority, and Rune looking gifted seems to have more basis in, well, his actual posts. Her "the other pack went for phantom" argument seems especially odd. She's accusing morm of being a wolf who knows the truth of the night kill, but that's actually the feeling I get from her. That is, maybe her pack actually did think Rune was a wolf, so that theory seems most reasonable to her, and therefore morm seems like an easy (and possibly enemy-wolfish) target for speaking against it?
296 - Votes morm "for reasons stated above".

Conclusion: There's much to raise an eyebrow here. I could vote for Lottie.

Edit: X'd with Shasta onwards.

[Aganzir]

So my brain isn't working and I can't get anything done and keep absentmindedly refreshing the thread to see if anyone has said anything I could reply to with a one-liner.

Half an hour later. This really isn't working. So all you're getting is very general impressions and my sincere apologies and no actual evidence.

GUILTY

• Macalaure - he's off and I'm not comfortable with him. At the same time I'm wondering if a wolf would presume to be so convinced about my guilt.
• McCaber - I didn't like how he interpreted my part in me and Lommy's fight.
• Thinlómien - strong and overtly excited reaction to my joke, and tries to make it sound like I used tiredness as my only excuse when I in fact said I got really upset because I felt she was being intentionally rude.
• Greenie - now I happen to know she's had a lot of time in her hands because she's been home with the most awful cough (I can occasionally hear her in the next room - yes all Finnish Barrow-Downers live together at one point or other), and she's made loads of good points. But amidst all this she's too spotless and pure, and butter truly wouldn't melt in her mouth. And it's the not ruffling any feathers part that makes me wary, most of all.

It feels a little lazy to suspect only people who have voted for me but that's apparently the way it goes today. I want to take another quick look at them before voting (not that I'm likely to post anything about it unless something strikes me as absolutely vital, I can't keep my eyes open).

INNOCENT

• Formendacil - his whining, volunteering and self-vote on DAY 1 looked reasonably good.
• Rikae - I'm liking their points so far and seems generally innocent, so I'm generally happy to keep them around for longer.
• Firefoot - seems reasonable to me, nothing to worry about so far.
• Mithalwen - I wasn't happy that she voted for me yesterday but other than that I have nothing against her.
• Legate - seems more innocent than not. I think he said something weird on DAY 1 but I'm yawning too much to go back to check it right now.

EITHER

• Loslote - She felt a little off to me on DAY 1 but I thought her point about no solid gifted clues was a decent one. Other than that no idea.
• sally - I didn't entirely understand where she was coming from with Rune but I didn't see it as obviously wolfish, and I think she'd have been happy to get rid of me if she's a wolf. It's hard to tell though because she hasn't been talking about me a whole lot and that's usually my way of telling how it's going with her.
• Boro - looking okay but I have too little to go on.
• Gwathagor - I messaged him on facebook to ask if he's playing.
• Eomer - has escaped my notice so far. Sneaky.
• Nerwen - very observant but stays in the shadows
• Lalaith - inclined towards innocent a little more than guilty, but (EDIT: apparently I got distracted here - I was going to say something like) hasn't been talking a lot and I feel she's focused a bit too much on me and Lommy's spat.
• mormegil - mystifying but reasonable, no idea.
• Nilp - no read.
• Shasta - it struck me the wrong way when he said he would've felt better about me if I'd only said I voted Lommy yesterday in retaliation, but not much - it just felt a little bit wolfish to me. Other than that I have nothing.
• Kath - have you forgotten you're playing dear?

[McCaber]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

[*]Thinlómien - strong and overtly excited reaction to my joke, and tries to make it sound like I used tiredness as my only excuse when I in fact said I got really upset because I felt she was being intentionally rude.

So wait, you spend a lot of time toDay trying to smooth things over with her, and now she's back on your guilty list?

I'm running out of time and I might not be back before DL, but for me not a lot has changed.

++ Aganzir

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by McCaber

So wait, you spend a lot of time toDay trying to smooth things over with her, and now she's back on your guilty list?

I apologised for having upset her. I never said she looked innocent.

[Firefoot]

Okay, some lists:

Innocent?
Nerwen - seems very reasonable
Form - the vote for himself seems very ordo-ish
Rikae - I suppose I'll get harped on for wishy-washiness again here, but after looking at her posts I don't know what was setting off warning bells except maybe her tone sometimes.
morm - I'm following his thinking most of the time and mostly agreeing
B88 - Acting very consistently
shasta - Just can't find anything suspicious

I keep going back and forth/can't get a read at all
Mith - no read
Eomer - not enough posts (weird because I remember Eomer as a prolific poster - but then again, I used to be to - life changes, I guess); the Nogrod vote is a little suspicious to me
Lal - haven't spent much time looking at her posts, maybe seems okay
Nilp - no clue
Kath - Every other thing she does I change my mind. The vote for Form is strange
Lommy - I don't understand her spat with Agan
Greenie - no read
Legate - seems okay?
Sally - Her posts also seem mostly okay, mostly here for Nogrod vote
Gwath - no posts
Agan - See the comment on Lommy

Suspicious
Lottie - See my comment at the start of the day - maybe chasing this tie thing really isn't useful, but she just feels suspicious to me
Macalaure - My suspicion of him has grown since the start of the day
McCaber - hasn't done anything to change my feelings today.

At this point I'm probably going to vote for Mac, but am open to persuasion.