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Old 05-02-2019, 08:18 AM   #1
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Gurthang then?
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Old 05-02-2019, 08:02 PM   #2
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Gurthang then?
If it were "Gurthang" I'd have accepted "Anglachel" as the answer.

Again, though, Anglachel/Gurthang is referenced, but is not the "speaker"- which is a little more obscure.

The whole thing is basically talking about a brief incident taking place at a specific point in time- so think about the meaning of future whisper. Or you could try working out who "he" and "you" might be.
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Old 05-03-2019, 02:16 AM   #3
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So Anglachel is referenced?

How about Nan Elmoth then? It betrayed Aredhel, and it's where Anglachel was made.
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Old 05-03-2019, 02:42 AM   #4
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Am at least right in thinking that 'he' is Thingol and 'you' is Beleg?
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Old 05-03-2019, 03:52 AM   #5
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So Anglachel is referenced?

How about Nan Elmoth then? It betrayed Aredhel, and it's where Anglachel was made.
Not Nan Elmoth.

You're looking for an instance of [somebody] warning [somebody else] that "I" [not actually a person] can't be trusted. (You quoted similar advice about Anglachel itself).

Edit: missed your last post.

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Am at least right in thinking that 'he' is Thingol and 'you' is Beleg?
No... and that's the key to it. There is a passage where somebody is warned about "me" in much the same terms.
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Old 05-03-2019, 03:54 AM   #6
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So Anglachel is involved, yet it isn't. It's referenced, but not really.

It's a first age thing, right?
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Old 05-03-2019, 04:04 AM   #7
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So Anglachel is involved, yet it isn't. It's referenced, but not really.

It's a first age thing, right?
Yes. But Anglachel is involved and is really referenced. That is, part of the riddle is talking about it directly- but it isn't the answer.
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Old 05-03-2019, 04:09 AM   #8
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So the warning happens around the same time?
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