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Nerwen · 05-02-2019, 03:07 AM

Well, the first verse, as G55 already guessed, refers to the Flight of the Noldor. For the rest- well, Fingon and Maedhros had been close before the unfortunate ship-burning affair, and it was Fingon's rescue of his cousin from Thangorodrim that helped heal the rift between their Houses- but he had to remove his hand in the process.

I think that satisfies all points?

Urwen · 05-02-2019, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Nerwen

Well, the first verse, as G55 already guessed, refers to the Flight of the Noldor. For the rest- well, Fingon and Maedhros had been close before the unfortunate ship-burning affair, and it was Fingon's rescue of his cousin from Thangorodrim that helped heal the rift between their Houses- but he had to remove his hand in the process.

I think that satisfies all points?

Yes, it does.

Nerwen · 05-02-2019, 05:02 AM

Okay, then here's the next one.

He warned you that I might betray
And quick were you to give away-
Or did you hear a voice within,
The future whisper of my kin?

Urwen · 05-02-2019, 05:13 AM

Maeglin?

Nerwen · 05-02-2019, 05:19 AM

No, not Maeglin.

It's an "every line means something" sort of riddle.

Urwen · 05-02-2019, 05:25 AM

So there is a traitor involved.

Known traitors: Maeglin, Bereg, Grima, Mim.

Huinesoron · 05-02-2019, 05:32 AM

I feel like this is another non-person riddle (which, come to think of it, almost all of the original Hobbit Riddle Game was, too - personifying the inanimate is pretty much a tradition), but unfortunately my mind keeps jumping to Star Wars: "Your thoughts betray you."

The repeated reference to voices is pushing me towards someone being betrayed by their own loud voice, but I... don't think Tolkien ever wrote that, so probably not.

hS

Urwen · 05-02-2019, 05:39 AM

Wait, could it be that Nerwen is being cheeky and the answer is, in fact, Anglachel?

He warned you that I might betray - It won't love a hand that it serves, nor will it stay with you long
And quick were you to give away- Yet I will wield it while I may
Or did you hear a voice within, - A speaking sword
The future whisper of my kin? - Anglachel and Anguirel

05-02-2019, 03:07 AM	#1
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Well, the first verse, as G55 already guessed, refers to the Flight of the Noldor. For the rest- well, Fingon and Maedhros had been close before the unfortunate ship-burning affair, and it was Fingon's rescue of his cousin from Thangorodrim that helped heal the rift between their Houses- but he had to remove his hand in the process. I think that satisfies all points? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

05-02-2019, 05:02 AM	#3
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Okay, then here's the next one. He warned you that I might betray And quick were you to give away- Or did you hear a voice within, The future whisper of my kin? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

05-02-2019, 05:13 AM	#4
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Maeglin? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-02-2019, 05:19 AM	#5
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	No, not Maeglin. It's an "every line means something" sort of riddle. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

05-02-2019, 05:25 AM	#6
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	So there is a traitor involved. Known traitors: Maeglin, Bereg, Grima, Mim. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

05-02-2019, 05:32 AM	#7
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,971	I feel like this is another non-person riddle (which, come to think of it, almost all of the original Hobbit Riddle Game was, too - personifying the inanimate is pretty much a tradition), but unfortunately my mind keeps jumping to Star Wars: "Your thoughts betray you." The repeated reference to voices is pushing me towards someone being betrayed by their own loud voice, but I... don't think Tolkien ever wrote that, so probably not. hS

05-02-2019, 05:39 AM	#8
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Wait, could it be that Nerwen is being cheeky and the answer is, in fact, Anglachel? He warned you that I might betray - It won't love a hand that it serves, nor will it stay with you long And quick were you to give away- Yet I will wield it while I may Or did you hear a voice within, - A speaking sword The future whisper of my kin? - Anglachel and Anguirel __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.