The Mysterious 10th Bearer. - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Boromir88 · 08-02-2004, 08:22 AM

Osse, good point, someone may not even have touched the ring. One could easily slip a new chain through and take out the old chain without touching the ring. However even touching the chain the ring is on I would still consider that as "handling" the ring, not directly but indirectly.

Sam could have gotten an elven chain from Bilbo, possibly. The only reason I dont think it's Elrond or Gandalf is because I would think they would have gone through extreme troubles to noy have anyone (including themselves) handle the ring. I would say this because anyone even "handling" the ring's chain could very well be easily tempted. I just personally believe they were very cautious about situations like these.

Morsul the Dark · 08-02-2004, 08:29 AM

I begin to think and I relize besides the 999 idea Elrond would be at one of the conspirators afterall why go through the trouble of putting it on a new chain and giving it back to Frodo unless you knew he would be the one to go otherwise they could have waited until the had formed the fellowship then put it on a new chain

Boromir88 · 08-02-2004, 08:46 AM

Osse, now that I think about it, if you look at Galadriel's situation she resisted the ring. Elrond had his own powers and could resist like Galadriel did. However, he wouldn't dare to touch it, even Galadriel couldn't touch it. Your argument about "not-touching" the ring, to change the chain, could only point to one person then, Elrond.

Elrond or Gandalf would certainly, in my opinion, not allow anyone to touch it. However, Elrond and Gandalf had the strength to resist the ring, if they would have touched it, then it would have gotten interesting. Because, not even Galadriel would have been able to touch it.

08-02-2004, 08:22 AM	#1
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Handling Osse, good point, someone may not even have touched the ring. One could easily slip a new chain through and take out the old chain without touching the ring. However even touching the chain the ring is on I would still consider that as "handling" the ring, not directly but indirectly. Sam could have gotten an elven chain from Bilbo, possibly. The only reason I dont think it's Elrond or Gandalf is because I would think they would have gone through extreme troubles to noy have anyone (including themselves) handle the ring. I would say this because anyone even "handling" the ring's chain could very well be easily tempted. I just personally believe they were very cautious about situations like these.

08-02-2004, 08:29 AM	#2
Morsul the Dark Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,448	I begin to think and I relize besides the 999 idea Elrond would be at one of the conspirators afterall why go through the trouble of putting it on a new chain and giving it back to Frodo unless you knew he would be the one to go otherwise they could have waited until the had formed the fellowship then put it on a new chain __________________ Morsul the Resurrected

08-02-2004, 08:46 AM	#3
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Think ahead Osse, now that I think about it, if you look at Galadriel's situation she resisted the ring. Elrond had his own powers and could resist like Galadriel did. However, he wouldn't dare to touch it, even Galadriel couldn't touch it. Your argument about "not-touching" the ring, to change the chain, could only point to one person then, Elrond. Elrond or Gandalf would certainly, in my opinion, not allow anyone to touch it. However, Elrond and Gandalf had the strength to resist the ring, if they would have touched it, then it would have gotten interesting. Because, not even Galadriel would have been able to touch it.