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Pengolodh · 04-20-2001, 03:00 AM

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<img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Enedhil/Celebrimbor...Whatever!

On the matter of the Elessar, it can basically be cut into two versions...

One version has it made by Enerdhil, who gives it to the lovely Idril Celebrindal, who gives it to Earendil, who heals the damage of men and animal at the Havens of the Sirion. He then departs with it over the Sea (that's the short version for you). The Elessar then comes back by the hands of Mithrandir who gives it to Galadriel, to heal her land. He notes though, that it is not for her to keep and that it is meant for who we will come to know as Aragorn, son of Arathorn.

Second version has it that Enerdil made one and that Celebrimbor made the second for Galadriel, whom he loved. This was however later corrected in that Celebrimbor made BOTH Elessars. The first went with Earendil. The second was less powerful because Arda was waning and the sunlight (which was captured in this green coloured jewel)was not as bright and powerful anymore. It was still very potent though and was primarily used for healing. Celebrimbor's second was, as I said given to Galadriel, but with the coming of Nenya, she gave it to her dtr. Celebrian, who gave it to Arwen, who gave it to Aragorn Elessar.

PS, I am pretty certain the Silmarils were never mentioned to be green coloured. I would suppose them to be red, blue and white, but that is more an "educated" guess.

Cheers

"In those days the Noldor still roamed the Hither Lands, Mightiest among the Children of Iluvatar, fair and tall and their beautiful voices were still heard by mere mortals"</p>

04-20-2001, 03:00 AM	#15
Pengolodh Haunting Spirit Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 51	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Pile o' Bones Posts: 19</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/sting.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Enedhil/Celebrimbor...Whatever! On the matter of the Elessar, it can basically be cut into two versions... One version has it made by Enerdhil, who gives it to the lovely Idril Celebrindal, who gives it to Earendil, who heals the damage of men and animal at the Havens of the Sirion. He then departs with it over the Sea (that's the short version for you). The Elessar then comes back by the hands of Mithrandir who gives it to Galadriel, to heal her land. He notes though, that it is not for her to keep and that it is meant for who we will come to know as Aragorn, son of Arathorn. Second version has it that Enerdil made one and that Celebrimbor made the second for Galadriel, whom he loved. This was however later corrected in that Celebrimbor made BOTH Elessars. The first went with Earendil. The second was less powerful because Arda was waning and the sunlight (which was captured in this green coloured jewel)was not as bright and powerful anymore. It was still very potent though and was primarily used for healing. Celebrimbor's second was, as I said given to Galadriel, but with the coming of Nenya, she gave it to her dtr. Celebrian, who gave it to Arwen, who gave it to Aragorn Elessar. PS, I am pretty certain the Silmarils were never mentioned to be green coloured. I would suppose them to be red, blue and white, but that is more an "educated" guess. Cheers "In those days the Noldor still roamed the Hither Lands, Mightiest among the Children of Iluvatar, fair and tall and their beautiful voices were still heard by mere mortals"</p>