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Sword of Spirit
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Oh, I'm around.
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In The Hobbit, don't the wolves talk to each other at their meeting? It says that the dwarves and Bilbo could not understand them, but that Gandalf heard what they said. It then gives an account of what Gandalf heard.
Now, that seems to be pretty hard evidence that animials did have thought and conversation, at least among themselves. Gandalf understanding them could be because he was a Maia, or he could have learned from Radagast. Regardless, the wolves did communicate to each other with sound, which could be called speaking. But this brings out another question. Does this even count? The wolves, although talking to each other, were not speaking in tongues that most people could understand. So basically, would we consider the wolves' growls/barks/whimpers to be 'talking' as we are defining it. This would be very similar to the clicks and whistles that dolphins use to 'talk'. It's obviously communication with sound, but do we dare call it talking?
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Auspicious Wraith
Join Date: May 2002
Location: The Netherlands
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The word talking does get hijacked by humans and kept in a tiny little locker for their own private use. I think that animals talk to each other but some people might get technical and refute that claim.
But as for Wargs, it is well known that they can master any language quite easily if they put their minds to it.
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Pile O'Bones
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Thanks everyone for helping me get this issue straight. I also feel rather stupid for forgetting the spiders in The Hobbit, and the Great Eagles, now that I think about it a little more I can remeber those. When Legolas was whispering comforts to the horse in the Paths of the Dead, wasn't that the only horse that came along?
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Alive without breath
Join Date: Jan 2003
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No, all of the dunedain, Aragorn and the others all went on horseback. There was a long way to ride between the stone of Erech and Lebennin. Aragor told them that the horses would have to suffer the paths as well, because of the long leagues ahead.
Moving back to the talking issue, I seem to remember there being something after the Barrow downs adventure, when Tom Bombadill tells them that his old Fatty Lumpkin had communicated with the other ponies. If someone can find the exact passage, that would be appreciated, as I’m away from my own copy at the moment.
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Wight
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Troll's larder
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Heh, I'm back... and so are my spanners.
Its not just animals that speak, ya know? Quote:
There you have it... Trolls' purses can talk too.
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles)
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About Fatty Lumpkin communicating with the hobbit horses,
as frequently with Tom B. it's rather vague, but provocative: Quote:
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