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Old 06-27-2005, 09:04 AM   #1
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Why does no-one except me seem to find it in the least bit interesting or significant that a wolf is dead and that we know her identity?

Once again, I beg that people turn off their spotlights for a moment and instead switch on their searchlights.
I think that instead of frenziedly waving our own pet suspect in the faces of everyone else, we should each of us study dispassionately each and every one of the remaining survivors, what they have done, who they have voted for and when. There is time enough for bandwaggoning later.
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Old 06-27-2005, 09:16 AM   #2
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Why does no-one except me seem to find it in the least bit interesting or significant that a wolf is dead and that we know her identity?
Because it's not because of us that she died? If there had been a voting trail, or alliances, or something like that, we could track it back, but because it was through pure dumb luck that we caught a wolf, I'm forced to stick with Saurreg's theory:

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b. In RL Esgal had difficulty balancing her schedule with the game. She was already on the way out via default and there was nothing they could or were willing to do.
If they could already see that she was going to be lynched, there was no point at all in needlessly tying themselves to her.
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Old 06-27-2005, 09:20 AM   #3
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I'm with that. I fear she was pretty irrelevant, as wolves go...

Well, I'll think your plan over, Fea. Of the other choices, Firefoot went after Hookbill, possibly to distance herself from him, but more likely cementing her innocence. Celuien is as unlikely as ever. Evisse also largely gets out on Hookbill grounds...
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Old 06-27-2005, 09:23 AM   #4
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Quite true. One must remember that when The Phantom stuck out for me and I for him, we were automatically branded as werewolves in cahoots. The group is much smaller now and any such signs would be easily recognizable.

It is logical to think that the werewolves are still coordinating with each other. However I will not discount the fact that they are actually acting on their own for individual survival. Risky but effective if it can last to a final three showdown. More power to the "greater" wolf if s/he can somehow paint himself as a main inquisitor of his luckless partner.
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Old 06-27-2005, 09:25 AM   #5
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*tsk* I'm not talking about yesterday's vote, which I agree was irrelevant, I'm talking about the first day's vote. It more or less exonarates you, Feanor, so I'd be more interested in it if I were you.

EDIT: Esgal wasn't even around on the first day so therefore she couldn't have PM'd her fellow wolves to say "look, let me die if someone nominates me tomorrow, I don't think I'll be around much." She may have done this later, of course, but not on that first day.
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Old 06-27-2005, 09:35 AM   #6
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The votes for the first day were either:

a. Flukes. Everybody was grasping in murky waters, trying their luck to the extreme. Vote for the sake of voting or not to be suspected.

b. Calculated votes to gauge the reaction of those who are accused and their detractors/supporters. A form of observation by agitation.

c. A gambit by werewolves to start a first round of random lynching enmass.

Esgalhugwen was not present during the first round. But if we go by my first werewolf theory and apply c.;

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The two wolves have long decided to ostracize their unlucky kindred since the beginning. The werewolves win in the end regardless which lycan stays alive and by habing the unwitting one eliminated, they exonerate themselves.
Then two of the werewolves were present in that round of voting. Each sponsoring its own candidate. However Hookbill was not there to vote. Therefore he is either innocent or the two wolves had agreed that only one of them would vote.
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Old 06-27-2005, 09:48 AM   #7
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At the moment, I have a job to do and babes to tend. But when I have time I will go through this entire wretched thread and sift through the evidence so far, and then post my assessment.
But for the moment I will repeat this: I agree that by the time the votes had mounted up, the other wolves (or wolf) might have been tempted to leave their absent friend to her fate, as she was taking so many with her.
But any wolf present in the last hour or so of voting would know that Eomer at least was watching and waiting, and they knew he would save himself by voting for someone else, even if no-one else did. But he voted more or less at random, he could just as easily have gone for Esgal, which would mean that they lose a wolf with no extra gain.
So I suspect that the wolves simply weren't there, or were amongst those who got confused by the timezones, which means that those who voted weren't wolves.
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Old 06-27-2005, 10:03 AM   #8
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Assertions and accusations duly noted, all around.

I am accused of courtesy, eloquence, and surviving so far. Thank you. Fea, you are emotive. Does that make you a werewolf? You are still around too. Does your vote make you a deity, that I as survivor should be such a suspect?

Why did they kill dancing spawn, is what I want to know. What could they have been thinking? I intend to look into this further.

Hookbill does seem a rather paper thin lycan. As you know, I think Saurreg innocent. Ang, whom I suspect, has jumped on Hookbill. It may be that he is the just judge, but it may be that he is a werewolf who is cutting his losses.

My half hour lunch time is over. I shall respond when able.

EDIT: Ah! I get it. Don't mind me, a little slow on the uptake. ++ Hookbill Nicely done, sirs. (sneaking back off line not on lunchbreak, bye guys)

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Old 06-27-2005, 11:28 AM   #9
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Since the lot of you don't give a hoot about me wanting very badly to kill LMP, it looks like I'll have to change tactics, just to make sure my vote isn't "wasted".

I'm now going to point out to you some voting trends that I've noticed.

Celuien voted twice for the innocent Oddwen. This is wrong, but I already forgot exactly how. See Lalaith's next post for the truth.

Hookbill twice voted for innocents.

Lalaith voted once for the innocent Oddwen, but more importantly, voted for Eswen, who did not vote for her, but relying on the word of Tim the Enchanter, I can assure you all that, had she been there, she would have been voting for Lalaith just to confuse us.. They are the only pair of "I'll vote for you if you vote for me" villagers to never actually have voted for each other.

Evisse seems innocent enough, with no votes against her, and she voted for Hookbill and Lalaith.

However, all voting aside, there are obvious alliances, such as Anguirel and Saurreg, and Anguirel and Lalaith.

Think over this information and glean from it what you might. I still say LMP is too polite for this sort of thing. I'd feel much better if he'd just go and insult someone. He's taking my constant battery with such good will that it makes me want to kill him in his sleep.

PS: if LMP dies in his sleep, it's not my fault. Call it poetic irony, if you will.
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Old 06-27-2005, 01:57 PM   #10
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Okay... I don't think I can come back before the voting ends, so here's my vote:

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Old 06-28-2005, 06:28 AM   #11
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If only the village had a carpenter.

The village had decided. Hookbill the Goomba would die this DAY – what was a Goomba anyway? Some orcish word for Werewolf? Most suspicious.

The Goomba, whatever it was, was led to the recently finished Oddwen Memorial Gallows (constructed in less than two days!). He was lead up the wooden steps to stand upon the wooden platform. Due to time restraints, there was no trapdoor, but the villagers wouldn’t let this stop them.

The noose was put around Hookbill’s neck. He was pushed off the platform into the air.

The pole of the gallows snapped.

Hookbill the Goomba landed, slightly choked but still alive, on his stomach. The villagers ignored him, instead starting to cast blame for the failure of the O.M.G. upon one another.

“It’s your fault!” one of them accused another. “I told you the pole was too thin.”

“Me? No, it was the rope, too thin I tell you.”

“This would never had happened if we’d put in a trapdoor…”

“HEY!” one of the villagers shouted. “The Goomba is getting away!” The villager cast a stone at Hookbill, who was rapidly crawling away from them.

The Goomba cried out as the stone connected with his body. Standing up, arms held up in peace, he returned to them.

“My fellow villagers,” he began, “Is it not clear to you that I am innocent of all guilt? For is not the snapping of the gallows evidence that Eru wishes me to live?”

“I’d say it was evidence of shoddy workmanship,” one of the villagers interjected.

Hookbill ignored him. “For Eru protects the innocent, and so, surely, I must be innocent. Why else would the Iluvatar choose to save me from certain death? For surely it is by the hand of the Allfather that I am saved, and He that created us intervenes now to protect his offspring. For what-”

A stone hit him between the eyes, causing him to crumple in a most interesting fashion.

“I couldn’t stand his babbling anymore,” the thrower explained, hurling another stone at the fallen body. The rest of the village soon took to the idea. Why had they wanted gallows at all? Stoning was so much more fun! Look at the interesting dents they were creating!

Eventually, it was clear that Hookbill was dead. The villagers kept throwing stones anyway, since there wasn’t really much else to do.

Suddenly, the form of the Goomba erupted out of the small mound of stones, growing in shape, form and power. A terrible transformation took hold of his deceased form as his legs and arms exploded into muscular, wolvish limbs and his face elongated into a lycanthrope’s snout.

The villagers had finally managed to lynch a wolf.

For tradition’s sake, they shoved a frog down his throat before going off to celebrate.

Living:

Anguirel
Celuien
Evisse the Blue
Feanor of the Peredhil
Firefoot
Lalaith
littlemanpoet
Saurreg

Dead:

the guy who be short (Villager) - partially consumer by werewolves on NIGHT 1.
Kath (Ranger) - lynched by villagers on DAY 1.
Azaelia of Willowbottom (Villager) - turned into a pincushion on NIGHT 2.
Oddwen (Villager) - lynched with kitchen utensils on DAY 2.
Eomer of the Rohirrim (Villager) - lynched and drowned on DAY 2.
the phantom (Shirriff) - poisoned himself on NIGHT 3.
Nilpaurion Felagund (Villager) - pitchforked to death on DAY 3.
Esgallhugwen (Werewolf) - probably choked on a tree-frog on DAY 3.
dancing spawn of ungoliant (Villager) - definitely choked on a tree-frog on NIGHT 4.
Hookbill the Goomba (Werewolf) - Stoned to death on DAY 4.

Score:

Werewolves: 1
Villagers: 7

It is now NIGHT. NIGHT will end in 24 hours at 1:30pm BST, 8:30am EDT, 7:30am CDT, or earlier if all activities are received by then.

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Old 06-27-2005, 11:41 AM   #12
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AARGH! Feanor, you're not concentrating.
I'm going to have to re-post. Firefoot's summary is wrong.

This is my previous post:
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To correct Firefoot's summary, Esga did not vote for me. Esga did not vote at all, she didn't appear, which is why she died. And Nilp got four votes, not three, Celuinen also voted for him.
Esga DID NOT vote for me. She did not vote at all. She did not appear. OK?
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Old 06-27-2005, 11:57 AM   #13
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Wow. That was entertaining. I'll have to do it again some time.
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Old 06-27-2005, 12:57 PM   #14
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*Shrugs * I suppose it's inevitable. I did not expect to last till the end of the game. I would much rather have been mauled by werewolves than lynched, at least you know were you stand with w-ws. Getting lynched makes you feel that no one trusts you… How many more innocents must die before we lynch a true werewolf? There is not much point in my voting now is there?
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Old 06-27-2005, 01:08 PM   #15
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I'd say there is a point in you voting, and you'd better do it anyway, Hookbill.
Not all of us voted yet and if you are indeed innocent, you may convince some of us of the fact if you say what's on your mind.
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Old 06-27-2005, 01:28 PM   #16
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A puzzlement...

It's a good thing I was able to return early today. Things are moving along far too quickly.

Why in the world did the wolves pick dancing spawn? I would have thought Saurreg the obvious target now that no one is likely to suspect him anymore. Fea might be on to something when she says it could be a set up to make her look guilty. I might have to move lmp onto my possible suspect list if this is a set up.

I wish I could pick up on guidance from the Seer, who must know something by now.

For now, it looks like Hookbill is going to be lynched today. I think he's suspicious, but whether he's a wolf or not, there are a couple of theories that can be tested by voting for him. Depending on who's still around tomorrow...

++HOOKBILL
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