Sage Hobbit movie advice for PJ?

[Bergil]

firstly, I like lhe idea of cameos and "Asterixian" jokes, referring to Lord of the Rings. Maybe, after a scene in Rivendell, Aragorn/Estel could ask Elrond what's going on an Elrond could say "another of Gandalf's plans. trusting a hobbit to do something this important?" or Thranduil could advise his son that "that's how dwarves are, you have to drag everything out of them"

my other Idea is how to start the film. we could have Thorin and Gandalf discussing retaking the mountain and deciding on burglury. the scene ends in Thorin saying "then find me a burgler for the ages. Someone who can make no noise, steal your beard before you notice, and dissapear into the shadows" then quickly cut to Bilbo lounging on a chair, then hear a knock, lose his balance, and crash to the floor then noisily make his way to the door.

what do you think?

[Frodo Baggins]

*chuckles*

That sounds magnificent Bergil! More like a grocer than a burglar!

[Elladan and Elrohir]

Dude, BERGIL, that sounds awesome! That would be a phenomenal way to open the film!

So, would they do a prologue? I would say, no. There's not nearly as much backstory to explain as you had with LOTR. I say everything necessary you can show in a flashback sequence as Thorin tells the story to Bilbo at Bag End.

After much thought and consideration, I must agree that Ian Holm is just too old for Bilbo. *SOB* So, that quite obviously raises the question: Who fills that starring role? Another unknown, would be my vote. I agree that no major stars (other than the ones reprising their roles from LOTR) should appear in the film at all.

[Parmawen]

this might be the most awful idea in the word, but i did see it suggested on another site, and it was Billy Boyd being cast as Bilbo...

Personally I don't really think it'd would just because he's allready so much associated with Pippin...but still it is an interesting idea. He really is the ideal hobbit.

And they actually could tie in a Legolas appearance quite nicely, because doesn't Bilbo end up rescuing the dwarves from Legolas's father's castle? Might be the wrong elvish king...I tend to get them mixed up...

[Elu Ancalime]

There was this one forum that i saw through another link about a guy who wrote an entire screenplay for the hobbit. I knwo its somewhere on this board, does anybody know? Anyway he introduced a few ideas:
-The prolouge would be a lengthy one. the FotR one was 7 minutes. It would start with the whole ring of power thing, with probably Gandalf narrating, or Thorin. Then it would branch off to the dwarven rings, talking about how dragon fire and evil recovered them, and Durin III's was the last. Then The balrog driving out the dwarves, but it probably wouldnt shoe the balrog, just a scene from the balrog's point of view, form his shoulder or something. Then the glory of the mountain, ending with smaug taking over, and a few scenes like when Frodo looked into the mirror and saw Sam, Legolas turning around, except with dwarves. Then somehow fit in a snippet of the war of dwarves and orcs, or save that flashback for later, then Thrains detainment in Dol Gulder, Gandalf getting the key and map and such. This section should wholly be in the prolouge, at least up to smaug, but some could be divided up for this next thing or Bilbos tea party. Anyway, it all needs to be there.

-Next is not the prolouage, but still not the movie. THis is when Gandalf meets Thorin in Bree, then goes to his halls. There more flashbacks, probably of the War of Dwarves and Orcs, then basically the entire disscussion of what was in Unfinished Tales and that bit in The Steward and the King.

-Then finally, Bilbo sitting on his rocking chair infront of his barrow-I mean Hole and the white words "The Hobbit" across the screen.

And all of that will probably take maybe up to 20 minutes, but literature-wise, it is needed.
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Lamborghini Gallardo

[Elu Ancalime]

Hey if Young Aragorn should make a cameo appearence at Rivendell they could use that really cute kid (what's his name) that played Eldarion in ROTK for the part!!

Actually, I believe Aragorn would be 25 years old, and that is what I'm guessing.

I also think(although this would have to be extended edition) that a White Council subplot would be great, Including Galadriel, all five wizards (we all wanna see em) perhaps Glorfindel, Celeborn, but probably not aragorn or arwen. They could go from some ignorance amoung the blue wizards, Sauruman's aggressiveness, Radagast saying why cant we just be friends, and Gandalf saying nicely stfu, we gotta do this. Then perhaps go to an invented scene of the wizards just about to attack DOl Gulder with a bunch of Galadhim.

John Ryes-Davis I dont think could be Thorin, he is not exactly "rough" enough in practice, perhaps he could be Gloin though? That would be amusing.
Let's see...Andy Serkis is a must, same with the wizards and Elrond, perhaps Colin Farrel as Bard? Your right btw, Sean Connery as Smaug would be great, how about Bob Knight as The Master, or Jon Lovitz.
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Suzuki gn125e

[Elladan and Elrohir]

Actually, Aragorn was ten at the time of The Hobbit. The Quest of Erebor took place in 2941; 'Gorn was born in 2931 on March 1. The Quest of the Ring was seventy-seven years after Erebor, in 3018-19, with Aragorn being 87 when it began and 88 by the time it ended.

I still don't think a prologue is a good idea. It's too LOTR-ish, and I really don't think the material merits one. This is a far more simple story than LOTR (at least it will be if they don't show a bunch of White Council stuff), and it needs to be treated as such.

I cannot wait to hear Howard Shore's score for The Hobbit. The Shire theme, one or both of Gollum's themes, and the Rivendell theme will be back, but everything else will be new. I want an Erebor/Dwarf theme, a new Goblin/Orc theme, a Smaug theme, and a Bard/Laketown theme. Okay, I'm selfish, but I cannot stand how great the LOTR soundtracks are, and I have GOT to hear another Shore M-E score!

Bob Knight as The Master. Now that makes me crack up. That's seriously funny.

No go on Billy Boyd. He's Pip, he'll always be Pip, and they can find someone more appropriate for the role of Bilbo.