Lord of the Rings - English Icon - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Bêthberry · 04-28-2006, 07:03 AM

The Shire possibly would make it as an English icon--all that green and pleasant land stuff. And I suppose those sturdy, stalworth hobbits. If there were white cliffs somewhere, even just at The Havens, I would say definitely.

As for the entire LotR or the Legendarium, well, that could well be in the eyes of the beholder. There are too many places that don't necessarily shout out "skeptic isle", such as Rivendell, Lothlorien, Minas Tirith, Dale. The theme is too universal and the convergence of all the various actions speaks to something broader than one nation. Thankfully I never get the sense that Frodo fought them on the beaches, fought them on the etc, and never surrendered. LotR is broader than simply England--all those nods to the northern mythologies lifts it above national iconography.

04-28-2006, 07:03 AM	#2
Bêthberry Cryptic Aura Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 6,003	The Shire possibly would make it as an English icon--all that green and pleasant land stuff. And I suppose those sturdy, stalworth hobbits. If there were white cliffs somewhere, even just at The Havens, I would say definitely. As for the entire LotR or the Legendarium, well, that could well be in the eyes of the beholder. There are too many places that don't necessarily shout out "skeptic isle", such as Rivendell, Lothlorien, Minas Tirith, Dale. The theme is too universal and the convergence of all the various actions speaks to something broader than one nation. Thankfully I never get the sense that Frodo fought them on the beaches, fought them on the etc, and never surrendered. LotR is broader than simply England--all those nods to the northern mythologies lifts it above national iconography. __________________ I’ll sing his roots off. I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away.