Tol-in-Gaurhoth (Isle of Werewolves) - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nogrod · 05-09-2006, 02:55 PM

Lmp!

I just checked the rules today, and would like to ask two questions. (If these are already answered, please just anyone correct me - and I'll find those answers out myself, so no need for anyone to go on "working" because of my possible unattentiviness)

1) The rules say, that the gifteds know the GW - and that they can PM to the GW, as the GW can PM to the gifteds. And then it's said, that the GW can reveal a gifted, who the other gifteds are. So can the gifteds also PM each other, if they know them? And if yes, is there a restriction in PM'ing, if a gifted becomes degifted, or in the end a wolf? It could add some more spice (is that needed?) to GW's game to think, whether to reveal the status changes to the gifteds - and possibly making them more powerful in the game at least for some time, to counter the head-start of the wolves? Who knows...

EDIT: What I meant: the gifteds are in a sense expendables to the GW - if they just reveal their knowledge to the general audience / fellow gifteds before they die. So the actual person being the gifted is not so important... but the common knowledge of, at least of someone fallen to the dark side, could be important (well, of course the malignant forces might make a counter claim - and in the game, where identities change, that could be more wise than in a normal game, where the truth would turn out the next day).

2) The rules say, that the lynched or killed persons previous roles will not be revealed at the death. But are their current roles revealed? I think that revealing the previous roles is not necessary, but revealing the current one is.

Loki · 05-09-2006, 03:20 PM

There are a few flaws to be exploited in the game. I'm loathe to point them out, however, because I am not yet aware which side I will be playing for.

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Are you sure, you are willing to give this weapon to the rampant-running and frustrated crowd of villagers in the end of DAY1?

My analysis of game mechanics and the possible exploitation of thus is the least of my worries. I'm making my honest prediction upon the present instance of the rules. Regardless, this is completely out of context. Anyone who took OOC information into the game would be "cheating."

Eonwe: No, but I've had a certain friend rattle on endlessly about the excitement involved, and the rules explained numerous times.

Nogrod · 05-09-2006, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Loki

Anyone who took OOC information into the game would be "cheating."

Even though you are right on this last one, from the moral point of view, it has been a number of times, when these matters have decided the result of the game...

In the last game I played, I was so stupid as to tell openly, I would be very badly available for the next 5-7 hours. Quite immediately the goose-Spm and the duck-Kath lynched me and won the game just by that.

So it's not so gentlemanlike as you might think...

WW-game reminds me of different multinational companies fighting each other - or then people in extremely abnormal situations fighting for their lives. It's sad somehow, but fun as long as it is a "game only"-stuff.

And what comes to your analysis, I'm afraid that I share your concern here and believe the EW-side has the upper hand, but then again, I kind of trust lmp's dry-runs so much as to wish to see, how it actually goes. People, after all, don't always act to the most rational way you would predict (the economists are just freaked out by peoples actual behaviour!)...

Kath · 05-09-2006, 03:33 PM

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In the last game I played, I was so stupid as to tell openly, I would be very badly available for the next 5-7 hours. Quite immediately the goose-Spm and the duck-Kath lynched me and won the game just by that.

Nogrod, while that was part of it, the real reason was simply that Sauce noticed I was around. We needed to get two votes in for someone straight away, so once I arrived he voted for someone he thought I'd follow along with. Unfortunately that was you!

Eonwe · 05-09-2006, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Loki

No, but I've had a certain friend rattle on endlessly about the excitement involved, and the rules explained numerous times.

Had? Did he take it a bit too far? (

) I'm kidding, of course, though I've been told to "Shut it" by my brother on more than one occation.

And "OOC information"? Out Of Game, was the closest I came...

Diamond18 · 05-09-2006, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Loki

Eonwe: No, but I've had a certain friend rattle on endlessly about the excitement involved, and the rules explained numerous times.

Do we get to know the identity of this friend or is that classified?

(I'm assuming you're refering to a Barrow Downer.)

05-09-2006, 02:55 PM	#1
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Lmp! I just checked the rules today, and would like to ask two questions. (If these are already answered, please just anyone correct me - and I'll find those answers out myself, so no need for anyone to go on "working" because of my possible unattentiviness) 1) The rules say, that the gifteds know the GW - and that they can PM to the GW, as the GW can PM to the gifteds. And then it's said, that the GW can reveal a gifted, who the other gifteds are. So can the gifteds also PM each other, if they know them? And if yes, is there a restriction in PM'ing, if a gifted becomes degifted, or in the end a wolf? It could add some more spice (is that needed?) to GW's game to think, whether to reveal the status changes to the gifteds - and possibly making them more powerful in the game at least for some time, to counter the head-start of the wolves? Who knows... EDIT: What I meant: the gifteds are in a sense expendables to the GW - if they just reveal their knowledge to the general audience / fellow gifteds before they die. So the actual person being the gifted is not so important... but the common knowledge of, at least of someone fallen to the dark side, could be important (well, of course the malignant forces might make a counter claim - and in the game, where identities change, that could be more wise than in a normal game, where the truth would turn out the next day). 2) The rules say, that the lynched or killed persons previous roles will not be revealed at the death. But are their current roles revealed? I think that revealing the previous roles is not necessary, but revealing the current one is. Last edited by Nogrod; 05-09-2006 at 03:01 PM.