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Celuien · 06-25-2006, 06:42 PM

Hmm. Want a hint?

I guess so:

Hint: The things in each pair are referred to in the text as the same type of symbol, though not necessarily to the same group of people/being. The first pair is the opposite type of symbol as the second pair.

Hopefully, that was both ambiguous enough to maintain the mystery of the clue and non-ambiguous enough to be some help.

Gil-Galad · 06-25-2006, 07:24 PM

well the first pair brought hope while valacrica brought fear...

Menelvagor ??

Celuien · 06-25-2006, 07:28 PM

Good thought, but not what I was looking for.

Hope is the correct connection for the first pair.
Fear isn't the one I was thinking about for the second, though you're very close.

EDIT: I thought of another hint, but I'm going to hold off on it for now. So there.

Celuien · 06-26-2006, 01:23 PM

Hint the second:

Reverse mood for the second set.

Celuien · 06-30-2006, 08:14 AM

And hint the third:

Both pairs contain one article of jewelry and one thing that appears in the sky. Though I switched the order of their appearance in the pairs. The sets are opposites, after all. Or as close to opposite as I could make them.

Probably gave away the answer with that clue.

Mettare · 07-03-2006, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Reverse mood for the second set.

The opposite of hope should be despair. But I wouldn't think that the Valacirce brought despair. Of course, it might have brought despair to the evil side.

Quote:

Both pairs contain one article of jewelry and one thing that appears in the sky. Though I switched the order of their appearance in the pairs. The sets are opposites, after all. Or as close to opposite as I could make them.

OK, I'm going to guess the missing piece of jewelry is the One Ring. Because, as the Valacirca kind of signalled the downfall of Morgoth, the One Ring destroyed Sauron in the end.

Bad guess, I know.

Celuien · 07-03-2006, 02:51 PM

The One Ring is the correct answer!

Quote:

“Seek for the Sword that was broken:
In Imladris it dwells;
There shall be counsels taken
Stronger than Morgul-spells.
There shall be shown a token
That Doom is near at hand,
For Isildur's Bane shall waken,
And the Halfling forth shall stand.”

So the Ring was directly referenced as a token of Doom...at least if that's how you read the poem.

And if you reverse the letters in mood you get...doom.

Clue might have been a bit off. But you got it. Thread is yours.

06-25-2006, 06:42 PM	#1
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,767	Hmm. Want a hint? I guess so: Hint: The things in each pair are referred to in the text as the same type of symbol, though not necessarily to the same group of people/being. The first pair is the opposite type of symbol as the second pair. Hopefully, that was both ambiguous enough to maintain the mystery of the clue and non-ambiguous enough to be some help. __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff. Last edited by Celuien; 06-25-2006 at 07:01 PM. Reason: Giving the hint...

06-25-2006, 07:24 PM	#2
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	well the first pair brought hope while valacrica brought fear... Menelvagor ?? __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

06-25-2006, 07:28 PM	#3
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,767	Good thought, but not what I was looking for. Hope is the correct connection for the first pair. Fear isn't the one I was thinking about for the second, though you're very close. EDIT: I thought of another hint, but I'm going to hold off on it for now. So there. __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff.

06-26-2006, 01:23 PM	#4
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,767	Hint the second: Reverse mood for the second set. __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff.

06-30-2006, 08:14 AM	#5
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,767	And hint the third: Both pairs contain one article of jewelry and one thing that appears in the sky. Though I switched the order of their appearance in the pairs. The sets are opposites, after all. Or as close to opposite as I could make them. Probably gave away the answer with that clue. __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff.