ATM II Planning/Discussion Thread - Page 12 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Hookbill the Goomba · 07-23-2006, 02:06 PM

I did mention Minas Mor-go before; there is a sort of continuity going on with The Barrow Wight and his friends. I thought that with Mt Zoom... erm... zooming I'd include some of the other MZC vehicles just as an extra joke...
If it's too much I'll change it, but I was thinking of Minas Mor-go becoming a recurring enemy sort of thing.

littlemanpoet · 07-26-2006, 09:26 PM

Just an explanation of what I mean by "pure fantasy": I tried to make sure that my crazy anakronism thing was plausibly tied into features of the Legendarium. Thus you have the Blue Istari as the "evil" founders of the entire anakronism system. Thus, there is an at least plausible mechanism for all the crazy stuff that happens in Mordor.

Mount Zoom, now, I don't know how it moves. How did it come loose from its vast cavernous maw of fire and flame and magma? Where did the wheels come from? If these questions have Legendarium-based answers, then you don't have pure fantasy. If they don't, then it's not anchored down, which makes it pure fantasy.

At least, that's how I look at it. But hey, that's just me. Thought I'd 'splain.

Hookbill the Goomba · 07-27-2006, 03:06 AM

Well, as the founder of Zoomology at the University of the Barrow Downs, I feel I can offer some incite into the moving mountains and Cities. (And by the way, Fea made Mount Zoom Move in this game, not me

)

Sauron was working on modifications to Mount Doom in order to make it move, modifications like creating a secondary magma chamber inside the Mountain itself and cutting it off from the lower vents. The wheels were made out of steel and placed there soon after the magma chamber was completed. Yet Sauron did not have the power to remove the Mountain from the ground nor did he have the technology to make it move.
When the anakronism came along, the new ruler of Mount Doom found that the technology was now readily available and in the course of ATM1 the mountain was removed from the ground with big knives. The wheels, however, were now covered in years of dust and ashes, making them blend into the mountain. When the Mountain started its engine for the first time, the ash and dust fell from the wheels and the Mountain was able to ZOOOOOMM!

littlemanpoet · 07-27-2006, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Hookbill the Goomba

Sauron was working on modifications to Mount Doom in order to make it move, modifications like creating a secondary magma chamber inside the Mountain itself and cutting it off from the lower vents. The wheels were made out of steel and placed there soon after the magma chamber was completed. Yet Sauron did not have the power to remove the Mountain from the ground nor did he have the technology to make it move.
When the anakronism came along, the new ruler of Mount Doom found that the technology was now readily available and in the course of ATM1 the mountain was removed from the ground with big knives. The wheels, however, were now covered in years of dust and ashes, making them blend into the mountain. When the Mountain started its engine for the first time, the ash and dust fell from the wheels and the Mountain was able to ZOOOOOMM!

Well, that explains everything.

the guy who be short · 07-28-2006, 10:13 AM

So... what's with the talking cat? A figment of Skittles' imagination?

Diamond18 · 07-28-2006, 03:47 PM

It could really be a talking cat or it could be a figment of her imagination. What do you guys want it to be?

the guy who be short · 07-28-2006, 04:03 PM

It could be a hallucination, or you have to (*Puts of LMP face*) justify its anachronistic existence.

I side with LMP here. We are going a little nuts. And I'm not just bitter than Angawen can't join in...

Diamond18 · 07-28-2006, 04:19 PM

Hey, I was up front in my bio about the fact that Skittles would be all nuts all the time.

Wasn't there a talking crow named Johnny Depp in ATM I? Among other bizarre travesties of nature?

Regardless, it will probably be funnier if the cat appears intelligent and articulate to only Skittles and looks and sounds like a regular Siamese to everyone else. So if you want to write a post in which Angawen watches Skittles carry on a one sided conversation with the cat, go ahead.

Kath · 07-28-2006, 06:05 PM

Hey Diamond, Igor has just attached himself to the Skittles party. Hope that's ok, he's sort of appointed himself as bodyguard, or at least as there-to-stitch-her-up-just-in-case guard.

Diamond18 · 07-28-2006, 09:07 PM

Igor is welcome aboard. I'd post a Skittles response but I won't be able to until Sunday, probably. So, just for the record, Hissyfit the cat is real. We were just discussing whether or not she actually speaks English.

Kath · 07-29-2006, 04:29 PM

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So, just for the record, Hissyfit the cat is real. We were just discussing whether or not she actually speaks English.

Indeed. We know this, Igor does not. No one else has mentioned the cat so it's a fair question in his mind

the guy who be short · 07-30-2006, 09:58 AM

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Wasn't there a talking crow named Johnny Depp in ATM I?

No, dearest Diamond, there was absolutely not.

He was a sparrow.

Kath · 07-30-2006, 04:23 PM

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He was a sparrow.

Because: Jack Sparrow.

the guy who be short · 07-31-2006, 08:55 AM

Aww, Kath, you remembered! *nuzzle*

Yes, I actually posted.

Dracomir is still in the room right? Where's Roggie gone? I'm slightly lost.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 08-01-2006, 01:14 PM

Dracomir is still in the room, but Anguirel is unable to write him, given that he's gone; therefore write as though he's there, but avoid anything to which Ang would need to respond. I have no idea where Roggie is. I don't remember whether or not he was ever even in the room. Given that Roggie's writer is a bit unable to post for him right now

, consider him not to be around and if I've said anything that contradicts it, I'll edit it later.

Lhunardawen · 08-02-2006, 12:52 AM

Ale eh, tugwubs?

Does Mordor have a law regarding alcohol and minors? What's the age limit for minors there, anyway?

(Whether or not Maika is still considered a minor, she'll pass on the question to Smilog...so get ready Hookbill!

)

Feanor of the Peredhil · 08-02-2006, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Lhunardawen

Does Mordor have a law regarding alcohol and minors? What's the age limit for minors there, anyway?

Unlikely. Though if you want laws, go ahead and put them in.

There isn't one. Pick one if you like.

Lhunardawen · 08-02-2006, 07:45 PM

Save filled. Maika was too distracted to think of any law whatsoever, or so her writer reasons out.

Your turn, Hookbill.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 08-03-2006, 09:16 AM

Sig, Hooky.

Great work, everyone. I love it.

littlemanpoet · 08-03-2006, 03:04 PM

Would anyone be opposed to me zig-zagging Mt. Zoom to a new temporary destination? It sort of is needed to pursue the Panakeia/Anakron plot outline....

If I haven't heard any protests by this time tomorrow, I'll go ahead with my plans....

Lhunardawen · 08-04-2006, 10:05 PM

Hook, did you just make Maika drink? That, uh, complicates things a bit.

Lhunardawen · 08-06-2006, 02:16 AM

Apologies for the double post.

I've found a solution, Hook - just make the Gondorians drink and leave Maika out. She's Mordorian, anyway, and does not need to try something from her own land.

If we can get around the ending of Hook's last post, I propose that the ambassadors take a break from the talks and let them "romp with the anakronisms," as Elempi said. What say you all?

Hookbill the Goomba · 08-06-2006, 06:45 AM

Sorry about the confusion, I wasn't really concentration when I wrote my last post, as you can plainly see.
I'll make some changes.

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Would anyone be opposed to me zig-zagging Mt. Zoom to a new temporary destination? It sort of is needed to pursue the Panakeia/Anakron plot outline....

I'm sure a Mountain needs to re-fuel every now and again. That can be your explanation.

Also...

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It didn't help that Mount Zoom took up all three lanes of the highway

What about...

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It didn't help that Mount Zoom took up all three lanes of the highway, as well as much of the land either side.

Kath · 08-06-2006, 11:11 AM

Soo, what was the closure all about?

Hookbill the Goomba · 08-06-2006, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Kath

Soo, what was the closure all about?

The Closure was a 1960s sitcom staring Sean Bean and Michael Moore as a pair of super sleuths looking for adventure in downtown Leeds. Their adventures included the discovering of an abandoned mine filled with ghosts and learning the secret of the Mayor's office (he kept panthers in it).

The show ran for three seasons before it was cancelled due to vast swelling. Fans of the show demanded for it to be brought back for the conclusion to the third season was...

Oh I really can't be bothered.

littlemanpoet · 08-06-2006, 02:16 PM

Thanks, Hooky. Edited accordingly.

Formendacil · 08-09-2006, 01:39 PM

Well, Hyarmenwë has done a Skittles, and walked out on the "negotiations"- taking Maika with him.

As always, if there are any character mis-characterizations, let me know... and all that stuff. You know the drill.

Celuien · 08-15-2006, 09:56 AM

Elempi - Forgot to mention that the media van followed Panakeia on her trip. She just didn't notice. So they ought to pull up in a few moments to catch the happy reunion on kamura. Feel free to deal with them as you see fit.

littlemanpoet · 08-15-2006, 09:58 AM

Celuien, that is perfect perfect (almost) perfect and funny funny funny!

I was thinking about having them meet precisely where the roads change from American rules to British rules, but we could write that in anyway.

The "almost" is a mere nitpick. Lundun is on the Sea of Nurnen, way to the south of the plains of Gorgoroth, where Lost Angles is located. So Panakeia would be traveling NORTHbound to catch him up. And turning into an orc just at that moment is a great twist!

I'd rep ya but this stooooopid computer...... blah blah blah....

Celuien · 08-15-2006, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by lmp

So Panakeia would be traveling NORTHbound to catch him up.

Have I ever mentioned that I spend most of my life being lost...including when indoors?

North and south are now returned to their proper locations.

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I was thinking about having them meet precisely where the roads change from American rules to British rules, but we could write that in anyway.

Yes! Let's do that.

Lhunardawen · 08-16-2006, 08:00 PM

Post up. Sorry, Formy.

If I stepped on some toes, please yell "Ouch!"

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"Lady Maika," Hyarmenwë began tentatively, "do those - people - in the broom shed, do they, by any chance, bear any relation to Dracomir Malfoidacil?"

It's from my post. Does he know that Dracomir's a wizard, and does he know the distinguishing characteristics of wizards? Have I just effectively assigned him to Mordor with this?

Are Harry, Professor Dumbledore, and Professor Kirke even supposed to be in Mordor?

Formendacil · 08-17-2006, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lhunardawen

Post up. Sorry, Formy.

If I stepped on some toes, please yell "Ouch!"

EDIT: It's from my post. Does he know that Dracomir's a wizard, and does he know the distinguishing characteristics of wizards? Have I just effectively assigned him to Mordor with this?

Doubtful if he KNOWS... but I wouldn't be surprised if he detected a similarity in some respects...

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Are Harry, Professor Dumbledore, and Professor Kirke even supposed to be in Mordor?

Maybe they aren't...

But Hairy, Professor Bumblebore, and Professor Kerke may well be...

Feanor of the Peredhil · 08-17-2006, 02:08 PM

They are in Mordor if only because we had them there in the first ATM. Tom Felton whined about them a few times. Given that they bear relation to him, they are perfectly acceptable in whatever way they are used.

Lhunardawen · 08-17-2006, 07:44 PM

So I suppose I don't need to edit anything, and Hyarmenwë's safe?

Kath · 08-18-2006, 10:36 AM

Hey all. I'm off to the Peak District for a week as a celebratory holiday so please Di feel free to use Igor as you wish. Put words in his mouth if you need, I'll yell at you for them later

I'll be back on Thursday.

Formendacil · 08-18-2006, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Lhunardawen

So I suppose I don't need to edit anything, and Hyarmenwë's safe?

Looks like it...

Hookbill the Goomba · 08-19-2006, 02:37 PM

It's time for Iceland's ninth favourite pass time- spot the obscure film reference in my latest post.

littlemanpoet · 08-19-2006, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Hookbill the Goomba

It's time for Iceland's ninth favourite pass time- spot the obscure film reference in my latest post.

"Being John Malkovich". I never finished it, it was too bizarre, but there is no forgetting it. Darn, that was easy.

Hookbill the Goomba · 08-20-2006, 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by littlemanpoet

"Being John Malkovich". I never finished it, it was too bizarre, but there is no forgetting it. Darn, that was easy.

Well done. You win... erm... a box of... boxes.

Diamond18 · 08-22-2006, 02:25 AM

I've kidnapped your characters, Hooka, for some completely pointless and more than a little random ice cream humor. Hope you don't mind.

07-23-2006, 02:06 PM	#441
Hookbill the Goomba Alive without breath Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: On A Cold Wind To Valhalla Posts: 5,912	I did mention Minas Mor-go before; there is a sort of continuity going on with The Barrow Wight and his friends. I thought that with Mt Zoom... erm... zooming I'd include some of the other MZC vehicles just as an extra joke... If it's too much I'll change it, but I was thinking of Minas Mor-go becoming a recurring enemy sort of thing. __________________ I think that if you want facts, then The Downer Newspaper is probably the place to go. I know! I read it once. THE PHANTOM AND ALIEN: The Legend of the Golden Bus Ticket...

07-27-2006, 03:06 AM	#443
Hookbill the Goomba Alive without breath Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: On A Cold Wind To Valhalla Posts: 5,912	Well, as the founder of Zoomology at the University of the Barrow Downs, I feel I can offer some incite into the moving mountains and Cities. (And by the way, Fea made Mount Zoom Move in this game, not me ) Sauron was working on modifications to Mount Doom in order to make it move, modifications like creating a secondary magma chamber inside the Mountain itself and cutting it off from the lower vents. The wheels were made out of steel and placed there soon after the magma chamber was completed. Yet Sauron did not have the power to remove the Mountain from the ground nor did he have the technology to make it move. When the anakronism came along, the new ruler of Mount Doom found that the technology was now readily available and in the course of ATM1 the mountain was removed from the ground with big knives. The wheels, however, were now covered in years of dust and ashes, making them blend into the mountain. When the Mountain started its engine for the first time, the ash and dust fell from the wheels and the Mountain was able to ZOOOOOMM! __________________ I think that if you want facts, then The Downer Newspaper is probably the place to go. I know! I read it once. THE PHANTOM AND ALIEN: The Legend of the Golden Bus Ticket...

07-28-2006, 03:47 PM	#446
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	It could really be a talking cat or it could be a figment of her imagination. What do you guys want it to be? __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

07-28-2006, 04:19 PM	#448
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	Hey, I was up front in my bio about the fact that Skittles would be all nuts all the time. Wasn't there a talking crow named Johnny Depp in ATM I? Among other bizarre travesties of nature? Regardless, it will probably be funnier if the cat appears intelligent and articulate to only Skittles and looks and sounds like a regular Siamese to everyone else. So if you want to write a post in which Angawen watches Skittles carry on a one sided conversation with the cat, go ahead. __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

07-28-2006, 06:05 PM	#449
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Hey Diamond, Igor has just attached himself to the Skittles party. Hope that's ok, he's sort of appointed himself as bodyguard, or at least as there-to-stitch-her-up-just-in-case guard. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

07-26-2006, 09:26 PM	#442
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Just an explanation of what I mean by "pure fantasy": I tried to make sure that my crazy anakronism thing was plausibly tied into features of the Legendarium. Thus you have the Blue Istari as the "evil" founders of the entire anakronism system. Thus, there is an at least plausible mechanism for all the crazy stuff that happens in Mordor. Mount Zoom, now, I don't know how it moves. How did it come loose from its vast cavernous maw of fire and flame and magma? Where did the wheels come from? If these questions have Legendarium-based answers, then you don't have pure fantasy. If they don't, then it's not anchored down, which makes it pure fantasy. At least, that's how I look at it. But hey, that's just me. Thought I'd 'splain.

07-28-2006, 10:13 AM	#445
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	So... what's with the talking cat? A figment of Skittles' imagination?

07-28-2006, 04:03 PM	#447
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	It could be a hallucination, or you have to (Puts of LMP face) justify its anachronistic existence. I side with LMP here. We are going a little nuts. And I'm not just bitter than Angawen can't join in...

07-28-2006, 09:07 PM	#450
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	Igor is welcome aboard. I'd post a Skittles response but I won't be able to until Sunday, probably. So, just for the record, Hissyfit the cat is real. We were just discussing whether or not she actually speaks English. __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.

07-31-2006, 08:55 AM	#454
the guy who be short Shadowed Prince Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Thulcandra Posts: 2,343	Aww, Kath, you remembered! nuzzle Yes, I actually posted. Dracomir is still in the room right? Where's Roggie gone? I'm slightly lost.

08-01-2006, 01:14 PM	#455
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Dracomir is still in the room, but Anguirel is unable to write him, given that he's gone; therefore write as though he's there, but avoid anything to which Ang would need to respond. I have no idea where Roggie is. I don't remember whether or not he was ever even in the room. Given that Roggie's writer is a bit unable to post for him right now , consider him not to be around and if I've said anything that contradicts it, I'll edit it later. __________________ peace

08-02-2006, 12:52 AM	#456
Lhunardawen Hauntress of the Havens Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IN it, but not OF it Posts: 2,538	Ale eh, tugwubs? Does Mordor have a law regarding alcohol and minors? What's the age limit for minors there, anyway? (Whether or not Maika is still considered a minor, she'll pass on the question to Smilog...so get ready Hookbill! ) Last edited by Lhunardawen; 08-02-2006 at 02:01 AM.

08-02-2006, 07:45 PM	#458
Lhunardawen Hauntress of the Havens Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IN it, but not OF it Posts: 2,538	Save filled. Maika was too distracted to think of any law whatsoever, or so her writer reasons out. Your turn, Hookbill.

08-03-2006, 09:16 AM	#459
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Sig, Hooky. Great work, everyone. I love it. __________________ peace

08-03-2006, 03:04 PM	#460
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Would anyone be opposed to me zig-zagging Mt. Zoom to a new temporary destination? It sort of is needed to pursue the Panakeia/Anakron plot outline.... If I haven't heard any protests by this time tomorrow, I'll go ahead with my plans....

08-04-2006, 10:05 PM	#461
Lhunardawen Hauntress of the Havens Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IN it, but not OF it Posts: 2,538	Hook, did you just make Maika drink? That, uh, complicates things a bit.

08-06-2006, 02:16 AM	#462
Lhunardawen Hauntress of the Havens Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IN it, but not OF it Posts: 2,538	Apologies for the double post. I've found a solution, Hook - just make the Gondorians drink and leave Maika out. She's Mordorian, anyway, and does not need to try something from her own land. If we can get around the ending of Hook's last post, I propose that the ambassadors take a break from the talks and let them "romp with the anakronisms," as Elempi said. What say you all?

08-06-2006, 11:11 AM	#464
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Soo, what was the closure all about? __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

08-06-2006, 02:16 PM	#466
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Thanks, Hooky. Edited accordingly.

08-09-2006, 01:39 PM	#467
Formendacil Dead Serious Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Perched on Thangorodrim's towers. Posts: 3,328	Well, Hyarmenwë has done a Skittles, and walked out on the "negotiations"- taking Maika with him. As always, if there are any character mis-characterizations, let me know... and all that stuff. You know the drill. __________________ I prefer history, true or feigned.

08-15-2006, 09:56 AM	#468
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,767	Elempi - Forgot to mention that the media van followed Panakeia on her trip. She just didn't notice. So they ought to pull up in a few moments to catch the happy reunion on kamura. Feel free to deal with them as you see fit. __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff.

08-15-2006, 09:58 AM	#469
littlemanpoet Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie Posts: 7,066	Celuien, that is perfect perfect (almost) perfect and funny funny funny! I was thinking about having them meet precisely where the roads change from American rules to British rules, but we could write that in anyway. The "almost" is a mere nitpick. Lundun is on the Sea of Nurnen, way to the south of the plains of Gorgoroth, where Lost Angles is located. So Panakeia would be traveling NORTHbound to catch him up. And turning into an orc just at that moment is a great twist! I'd rep ya but this stooooopid computer...... blah blah blah....

08-17-2006, 02:08 PM	#473
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	They are in Mordor if only because we had them there in the first ATM. Tom Felton whined about them a few times. Given that they bear relation to him, they are perfectly acceptable in whatever way they are used. __________________ peace

08-17-2006, 07:44 PM	#474
Lhunardawen Hauntress of the Havens Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IN it, but not OF it Posts: 2,538	So I suppose I don't need to edit anything, and Hyarmenwë's safe?

08-18-2006, 10:36 AM	#475
Kath Everlasting Whiteness Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Perusing the laminated book of dreams Posts: 4,533	Hey all. I'm off to the Peak District for a week as a celebratory holiday so please Di feel free to use Igor as you wish. Put words in his mouth if you need, I'll yell at you for them later I'll be back on Thursday. __________________ “If more of us valued food and cheer and song above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world.”

08-19-2006, 02:37 PM	#477
Hookbill the Goomba Alive without breath Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: On A Cold Wind To Valhalla Posts: 5,912	Being Gandalf Mithrandir It's time for Iceland's ninth favourite pass time- spot the obscure film reference in my latest post. __________________ I think that if you want facts, then The Downer Newspaper is probably the place to go. I know! I read it once. THE PHANTOM AND ALIEN: The Legend of the Golden Bus Ticket...

08-22-2006, 02:25 AM	#480
Diamond18 Eidolon of a Took Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: my own private fantasy world Posts: 3,460	I've kidnapped your characters, Hooka, for some completely pointless and more than a little random ice cream humor. Hope you don't mind. __________________ All shall be rather fond of me and suffer from mild depression.