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LjósÁlfr · 04-11-2007, 11:56 PM

Well, I know what my name means... It's Maarten, which is the Dutch form of Martin. And that comes from Latin Martinus, which is derived from Martis, the Genitive case from Mars (Roman war God).

Now how will I translate Mars into Old English?

littlemanpoet · 04-12-2007, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by LjósÁlfr

Now how will I translate Mars into Old English?

Uh, Thor?

LjósÁlfr · 04-12-2007, 10:06 AM

Heh, making that a Germanic god would make it Týr/Tîwaz.... Although the generall beliefed, yet still debated, claim that Týr was once the equal of Jupiter (Zeus), would sort of spoil that. Yet the critisim is that well, in the days we have written stuff from, he was more a Mars/Ares

But I shall bother you no more with Indo-Proto-European religeon, and the comparing of the latest variants of it, and just consider my name to be in-translateble

The Might · 04-12-2007, 10:08 AM

I thought Odin would be equal to Zeus since they are both the boss

LjósÁlfr · 04-12-2007, 10:17 AM

Oðin* sorta took the place of Týr, but, as generally beliefed yet still debated, Týr origenally had that function. But you're absolutely right, Oðin is ussualy accepted as the leader of the Æsir**.

(*Oðin is Old Norse for Odin)
(**Æsir is a certain house of God's, in later Norse Mythology the most important, the Vanir and the Jotun are the others)

The Might · 04-12-2007, 01:34 PM

What I always found strange in Norse mythology is the idea that gods can die
Doesn't it say somewhere the Odin dies?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 04-12-2007, 01:48 PM

Actually, yes, they all die in the end. The interesting thing is that they all know how they will die. I think Odin is killed by the wolf Fenrir (anyone confirms? Ljós?) Well, almost all of them. This is why they actually "are not gods, but humans" (to quote Xenofanés).

LjósÁlfr · 04-12-2007, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Might

What I always found strange in Norse mythology is the idea that gods can die
Doesn't it say somewhere the Odin dies?

Yeah, the Ragnarök. There's only a handfull of people wo survive that. Óðin die's fighting Fenrir, yet Fenrir he kills as well. Týr fights Garmr, and is killed by him as well and Þórr fights Jörmungandr.... Those are the 3 most important fights, now the make to God/evil God duel list complete;

Freyr - Surtr (A Jotun/Giant)
Heimdallr - Loki

And af course the army of Einherjar, the troops of Óðin, against all the troops the evil Gods/Myth stuff has got.

(please note all name's are given in Old Norse, most have a English varian,t ussualy just dropping the r, since that's the nominative singular male case. ð's and þ's become d's and th's, Þórr = Thor, Óðin = Odin))

04-12-2007, 10:08 AM	#4
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	I thought Odin would be equal to Zeus since they are both the boss __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

04-12-2007, 01:34 PM	#6
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	What I always found strange in Norse mythology is the idea that gods can die Doesn't it say somewhere the Odin dies? __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

04-12-2007, 01:48 PM	#7
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Actually, yes, they all die in the end. The interesting thing is that they all know how they will die. I think Odin is killed by the wolf Fenrir (anyone confirms? Ljós?) Well, almost all of them. This is why they actually "are not gods, but humans" (to quote Xenofanés). __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

04-11-2007, 11:56 PM	#1
LjósÁlfr Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sá er einn staðr þar, er kallaðr er Álfheimr. There is a place in the sky, that's called Elf Home. Posts: 23	Well, I know what my name means... It's Maarten, which is the Dutch form of Martin. And that comes from Latin Martinus, which is derived from Martis, the Genitive case from Mars (Roman war God). Now how will I translate Mars into Old English?

04-12-2007, 10:06 AM	#3
LjósÁlfr Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sá er einn staðr þar, er kallaðr er Álfheimr. There is a place in the sky, that's called Elf Home. Posts: 23	Heh, making that a Germanic god would make it Týr/Tîwaz.... Although the generall beliefed, yet still debated, claim that Týr was once the equal of Jupiter (Zeus), would sort of spoil that. Yet the critisim is that well, in the days we have written stuff from, he was more a Mars/Ares But I shall bother you no more with Indo-Proto-European religeon, and the comparing of the latest variants of it, and just consider my name to be in-translateble

04-12-2007, 10:17 AM	#5
LjósÁlfr Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Sá er einn staðr þar, er kallaðr er Álfheimr. There is a place in the sky, that's called Elf Home. Posts: 23	Oðin* sorta took the place of Týr, but, as generally beliefed yet still debated, Týr origenally had that function. But you're absolutely right, Oðin is ussualy accepted as the leader of the Æsir*. (Oðin is Old Norse for Odin) (**Æsir is a certain house of God's, in later Norse Mythology the most important, the Vanir and the Jotun are the others)