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|  11-07-2007, 04:18 AM | #1 | 
| Hauntress of the Havens Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IN it, but not OF it 
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|  11-07-2007, 04:26 AM | #2 | ||
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|  11-07-2007, 04:48 AM | #3 | ||
| A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea 
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  *slaps himself to the forehead* What madness is that? Two. But as far as I know, it does not rhyme with date. In fact, I think it's very hard to find something that it would rhyme with. Hmm... I don't know. Quote: 
  Well let's wait for the three following days. But I don't give much hope to it. 
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|  11-07-2007, 09:43 AM | #4 | |
| Hauntress of the Havens Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: IN it, but not OF it 
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 I guess I'm entitled to appear self-confessedly stupid occasionally... but just how is "Legate" supposed to be pronounced anyway, Legate?   | |
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|  11-07-2007, 02:02 PM | #5 | |
| A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea 
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  Simply, the pronounciation is something like "lae-get" (as in "lay" and "to get something"). Well, more or less. 
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|  11-07-2007, 02:32 PM | #6 | 
| Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... 
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				Err it isn't ... is it?
			 
			
			I would say it leg-ut or legget may be - definitely not as in lay.. And there are good diachronic linguisic reasons for our spelling (as well as some random reasons) and in my opinion Mr Webster only confused the situation... why change plough to plow when it still is said differently to snow?  The Saucepan Man had a splendid sig that illustrated the many pronunciations of Eglish words ending in -ough (7 or 8 I think...).  Edit Of course I am speaking as a speaker of more or less "Oxford English" .... the inhabitants of the erstwhile colonies may have a different opinion.... 
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|  11-07-2007, 02:41 PM | #7 | 
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			Well my dictionary has this explanation: legate = ambassador, envoy [leg-it] http://www.yourdictionary.com/legate (with pronunciation, but the voice sounds liek Microsoft Sam) 
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|  11-07-2007, 02:42 PM | #8 | ||
| A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea 
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  "Legget" is probably the closest. But isn't lay, without the y, sounding the same? I mean, the vowel? Maybe a little bit longer... I just could not remember any words where the English people pronounce "e" as I wanted. Quote: 
 Okay, I hope this matter is solved and we don't get any chat skwerl to be sent against us... 
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|  11-07-2007, 03:00 PM | #9 | 
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			[QUOTE=Legate of Amon Lanc;535520]Yes, leg, good one, how come I did not think of that.  "Legget" is probably the closest. But isn't lay, without the y, sounding the same? I mean, the vowel? Maybe a little bit longer..QUOTE] http://www.thefreedictionary.com/legate No in British English it is quite a different sound - lay has a long pure vowel, leg has a short vowel so far in the back of the mouth that it is practically a gentle clearing of the throat. The mouth is in a completely different shape. If I say Legate with the lay sound I feel like I am auditioning for Minnie Driver's role in "The Riches"   
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