Inching closer to The Hobbit film - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Sauron the White · 11-21-2007, 07:53 AM

E&E ... you coud be correct. My suspicions have always run to Jackson doing several things with THE HOBBIT as a film. One would be to make it fit with the previous three films so that it is accepted as part of the same series --- and yes, I know it is not really. That would mean a more serious adaption. However, I also see him adding many moments that are lighter, sweeter and more in line with the feeling of the book. Sort of a best of both worlds approach.

Nerwen · 11-23-2007, 11:39 PM

If I were Peter Jackson I'd be rather afraid of those die-hard supporters. I mean the ones who insist that only he can direct The Hobbit, and that they'll refuse to see it if anyone else does.

I can see them turning on him viciously if the film doesn't live up to their expectations– and arguably, nothing will. I know the capitals-and-exclamation-points crowd. (Some of my best friends, etc...) Honestly, some of them are going to be deeply disappointed if The Hobbit doesn't incorporate their way-out personal theories about Middle-earth (these having nothing to do with anything Tolkien wrote, and very little to do with the LotR movies either).

I would say New Line is paying attention to all these protests, but also that they're taking them with a grain of salt. Do you really think nearly half of the movie-going public will stay home if The Hobbit has a different director?

Sauron the White · 11-24-2007, 09:00 AM

Nerwen... while there may be people as you described in your above post, I do not see it as you do. As a serious fan of the Jackson LOTR adaptions, I merely want two things in a HOBBIT film. The first would be a good movie that gives us the essence of the story, and second, a film which fits with the style, look and approach of the first three LOTR Jackson films. If they can give us two, so much the btter.

Are those expectations so high that they cannot be satisfied or met? I would think not.

Nerwen · 11-24-2007, 09:57 AM

Ah, but did I say I was talking about all fans of the movies? In fact, I thought I specifically said I wasn't. I'm just saying that many of those posters struck me as being a certain type of fan.

Sauron the White · 12-01-2007, 08:50 AM

This in from a site called marketsaw which specializes in 3-D news. They have some track record as they have released some items about the James Cameron film AVATAR. Jacksons company is also doing some special effects work on AVATAR. While I cannot vouch for the accuracy of this site or this report, it is interesting and gives us something to speculate about.

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Friday, November 30, 2007
Hot Hobbit News! Jackson Will Helm "The Hobbit" As Two 3D Prequels to LOTRs! AND...
Ok folks - this is hot off my sources and they are the ones who provided the Avatar Ney'tiri image so it is pretty darn reliable:

Peter Jackson will indeed DIRECT "The Hobbit"! This is my second source telling me this. You can be 100% SURE that this is happening. The story will be split into two separate movies as was previously thought with the second relating much more to "Lord of the Rings" than the first.

Wait, as if that wasn't enough: Here is the kicker people: "The Hobbit" will be in 3D. Yes. You heard it on MarketSaw first - both Hobbit movies will be shot in 3D. FURTHER, New Line and Peter Jackson then intend on converting the Lord of the Rings trilogy into 3D as well and re-releasing them in theaters between 2012 and 2014! How is that for big news??Awesome stuff!! I have this news from one source, not two.

Of course this is exclusive news and has not been announced by New Line or Peter Jackson yet. If my sources are 100% correct (and I have plenty of trust in them, believe me) then we are going to see an announcement relatively soon as "The Hobbit" is not a trivial project to be sure and needs to get ramped up!

Just what does this mean for the 3D movie industry? It means total validation. It underscores that if you are going to do a huge motion picture from today on, it had better be in 3D. George Lucas is still intending on converting his entire stable of Star Wars films into 3D too. The validation is huge for the movie industry as a whole and for the theater customers! Lets just hope that my sources are bang on as they usually are.

SAME DAY UPDATE: Here is an excerpt from my email with my source regarding CASTING:

"No casting info yet. But they are looking forward to bring back Sir Ian McKellen, Andy Serkis and Hugo Weaving. For these 3 actors, the chances are really good.
I'm not sure about the release date, but I think 2010 for the first film, and 2011 for second, is what they are trying to get into everybodys calendar. So it would make sense with my information of following with the converted Trilogy in 2012 – 2014. That is all happening, but there must be said, that there is a possibility of +/- 1 to 2 years to the whole thing. If I get to know more, I try to tell ya."
I would heavily suspect that Jackson will shoot "The Hobbit" back to back as he is an old pro at that now and heck you know damn well that its gonna rake in cash. And as my source pointed out, finding a window to fit everyone's schedule is going to be damn hard.

Galendor · 12-01-2007, 05:33 PM

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Hot Hobbit News! Jackson Will Helm "The Hobbit" As Two 3D Prequels to LOTRs!

Thank you STW for posting this update news. But I don't think it is good news. I fear it means the primary emphasis will be on creating wow-bang! 3D special effects, and little things like, um, acting and storyline will suffer for it. All 3D movies have scenes stuck in them soley for the purpose of having something appear to come out of the screen at the audience. Bleah.

I fear Jackson will make The Hobbit as a vehicle to showcase 3D special effects and to appeal to the lowest common denominator, the popcorn-chewing masses. And The Hobbit story we know and love will get lost in all the SFX.

Worst case scenario, here is a potential synopsis of a Jackson 3D The Hobbit movie, from the perspective of his target audience member (a 15 year old boy):

Cool! Those smoke rings were coming right out at me!

Cool! That Troll reached right out at me!

Cool! Them wargs jumped right out at me!

Cool! That white stag jumped right out at me!

Cool! That giant spider jumped right out at me!

Cool! That Smaug fire came right out at me!

Cool! That black arrow flew right out at me!

Cool! That blood from Bolg sprayed right out at me!

Cool! Those eagles flew right out at me!

Sigh. I don't want 3D special effects. I just want the magic and beauty of the book to be carefully and thoughtfully turned into a movie that focuses mainly on storyline, acting, character development, and emotions. Just my 2 cents.

TheGreatElvenWarrior · 12-01-2007, 08:55 PM

Ugh!

I think that 3D is a bad idea, because some people can't watch them. Like me, because you have to wear those funky glasses and some people can't use them because their blind in one eye or something.

Stupid special effects!.... I could shoot them!

11-24-2007, 09:57 AM	#4
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Ah, but did I say I was talking about all fans of the movies? In fact, I thought I specifically said I wasn't. I'm just saying that many of those posters struck me as being a certain type of fan. Last edited by Nerwen; 11-24-2007 at 10:07 AM.

12-01-2007, 08:55 PM	#7
TheGreatElvenWarrior Mighty Quill Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Walking off to look for America Posts: 2,230	Ugh! I think that 3D is a bad idea, because some people can't watch them. Like me, because you have to wear those funky glasses and some people can't use them because their blind in one eye or something. Stupid special effects!.... I could shoot them! __________________ The Party Doesn't Start Until You're Dead.

11-21-2007, 07:53 AM	#1
Sauron the White Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 903	E&E ... you coud be correct. My suspicions have always run to Jackson doing several things with THE HOBBIT as a film. One would be to make it fit with the previous three films so that it is accepted as part of the same series --- and yes, I know it is not really. That would mean a more serious adaption. However, I also see him adding many moments that are lighter, sweeter and more in line with the feeling of the book. Sort of a best of both worlds approach.

11-23-2007, 11:39 PM	#2
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	If I were Peter Jackson I'd be rather afraid of those die-hard supporters. I mean the ones who insist that only he can direct The Hobbit, and that they'll refuse to see it if anyone else does. I can see them turning on him viciously if the film doesn't live up to their expectations– and arguably, nothing will. I know the capitals-and-exclamation-points crowd. (Some of my best friends, etc...) Honestly, some of them are going to be deeply disappointed if The Hobbit doesn't incorporate their way-out personal theories about Middle-earth (these having nothing to do with anything Tolkien wrote, and very little to do with the LotR movies either). I would say New Line is paying attention to all these protests, but also that they're taking them with a grain of salt. Do you really think nearly half of the movie-going public will stay home if The Hobbit has a different director?

11-24-2007, 09:00 AM	#3
Sauron the White Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 903	Nerwen... while there may be people as you described in your above post, I do not see it as you do. As a serious fan of the Jackson LOTR adaptions, I merely want two things in a HOBBIT film. The first would be a good movie that gives us the essence of the story, and second, a film which fits with the style, look and approach of the first three LOTR Jackson films. If they can give us two, so much the btter. Are those expectations so high that they cannot be satisfied or met? I would think not.