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Nogrod · 11-28-2007, 06:36 AM

This far it looks like we have 6 "votes" for at least a seer to be included and 3-4 for no gifteds at all (depending on how one interprets a few comments back there).

If we would have had 15 players it would have been easy: three wolves and a seer. A nice classic indeed.

But we have 18 players now - and if Kuru joins we have 19. And that makes a difference for playing 3 against 16 will be really hard and against all odds unlike playing 3 against 12.

4/15 is almost the same ratio as 3/12 and with classical game there would the seer and no other gifteds. If Kuru doesn't come it would be 4/14 and thus the villagers might gain a ranger to balance the ratio.

So what I think now basing on the discussion and after rethinking this myself I'd suggest the following choices, the first one being my slight favourite at this point:

With four wolves we should have a seer or seer and a ranger. That I think sounds like pretty classical ratio (around 1/3 have roles, wolves vs. villagers about 1/4) and quite balanced with these numbers. I'm quite happy to leave the hunter out as so many have voiced their opinion against the hunter (and hunter is a bit less classic role than seer and ranger anyway).

If there are any gifteds in a game with only three wolves the wolves will be the underdogs.

So with only three wolves I'd say no gifteds. But even then I still think the wolves will have hard times managing through the game - just look at the numbers.

8½ hours to decide so I'm waiting for your comments...

Volo · 11-28-2007, 06:47 AM

I vote for 4 wolves, a seer and a ranger. And for a Night to start with.

Aganzir · 11-28-2007, 06:48 AM

++ 4 wolves & seer

I think that'll do.

Thinlómien · 11-28-2007, 06:59 AM

++four wolves and no opinion on whether ther should be a ranger to help the seer

11-28-2007, 06:36 AM	#1
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	This far it looks like we have 6 "votes" for at least a seer to be included and 3-4 for no gifteds at all (depending on how one interprets a few comments back there). If we would have had 15 players it would have been easy: three wolves and a seer. A nice classic indeed. But we have 18 players now - and if Kuru joins we have 19. And that makes a difference for playing 3 against 16 will be really hard and against all odds unlike playing 3 against 12. 4/15 is almost the same ratio as 3/12 and with classical game there would the seer and no other gifteds. If Kuru doesn't come it would be 4/14 and thus the villagers might gain a ranger to balance the ratio. So what I think now basing on the discussion and after rethinking this myself I'd suggest the following choices, the first one being my slight favourite at this point: With four wolves we should have a seer or seer and a ranger. That I think sounds like pretty classical ratio (around 1/3 have roles, wolves vs. villagers about 1/4) and quite balanced with these numbers. I'm quite happy to leave the hunter out as so many have voiced their opinion against the hunter (and hunter is a bit less classic role than seer and ranger anyway). If there are any gifteds in a game with only three wolves the wolves will be the underdogs. So with only three wolves I'd say no gifteds. But even then I still think the wolves will have hard times managing through the game - just look at the numbers. 8½ hours to decide so I'm waiting for your comments... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

11-28-2007, 06:47 AM	#2
Volo Silver in My Silent Heart Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: the great beauty Posts: 1,611	I vote for 4 wolves, a seer and a ranger. And for a Night to start with. __________________ Fenris Wolf The EVEN NEWER Barrow-Downs Photo Page

11-28-2007, 06:48 AM	#3
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	++ 4 wolves & seer I think that'll do. __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

11-28-2007, 06:59 AM	#4
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	++four wolves and no opinion on whether ther should be a ranger to help the seer __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris