WW XXXX - The scouring of the Shire, vol.2

[Farael]

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

But only after I mentioned your name, which amounts to the same thing.

No, after you posted some non-sense, which included my name.

[Kuruharan]

Originally Posted by Farael

No, after you posted some non-sense, which included my name.

You're posting like you are scared of something.

[Farael]

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

You're posting like you are scared of something.

Then you've never played with me, which you have... have I ever refrained myself from accusing someone who seemed wolfish? even if I've been wrong often lately doesn't mean I'll stop trying to find a wolf and start trying to "look innocent"

Or is that what you'd have us do? have everyone give up the search and start trying to look as "unwolfish" as possible by doing the easy things?

[Kuruharan]

Originally Posted by Farael

Then you've never played with me, which you have... have I ever refrained myself from accusing someone who seemed wolfish? even if I've been wrong often lately doesn't mean I'll stop trying to find a wolf and start trying to "look innocent"

You appear to be posting scared because you launch yourself at me with a particular fury that is out of all proportion to my original comment, even though that comment did hold a specific point about some of the things you've been doing in this game.

Why is that, I wonder?

Could it be that I finally have a wolf by the tail...?

[Kuruharan]

And I'd like to re-emphasize that Farael didn't attack me until after I'd mentioned his name.

[Farael]

Originally Posted by Kuruharan

You appear to be posting scared because you launch yourself at me with a particular fury that is out of all proportion to my original comment, even though that comment did hold a specific point about some of the things you've been doing in this game.

Why is that, I wonder?

Could it be that I finally have a wolf by the tail...?

This is a bit of circular logic on my part, but doesn't it seem interesting that throughout the game Kuru has said nothing of essence, but now that he has a chance to make someone look suspicious he's very sure and confident?

Lynch me Kuru it will be the death of you when I'm found an ordo.

Edit: Fixing a bolding

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Kuru

And I'd like to re-emphasize that Farael didn't attack me until after I'd mentioned his name.

While I find Farael far from innocent (still a big questionmark to me), I think that's a really weak point to suspect him on.

[Kuruharan]

While I find Farael far from innocent (still a big questionmark to me), I think that's a really weak point to suspect him on.

Not when you stop to consider the ferocity of his attack, I think it is actually a rather strong point.

[Volo]

Tommorow, I think it would do good to inspect people from the "talk-effect" side. Who have been the ones to move the discussion into something we pretty much know is futile and bad for that moment.

I don't think I'll have the time to analyse Brinn toDay.

[Thinlómien]

Argh. While Farael and Kuru both strike me as innocentish as separate cases, their spat seems like there's a wolf involved. The problem is that I can't tell which one (and that I'm not sure about this). It is very interesting how Mac sides with Kuru and Brinn with Farael. That is something that should be looked at more closely if one of them dies and his/her role is revealed...

Originally Posted by Volo

Explain, please, I don't think I understood you.

I meant that when he said that thing, I realised I had a bad feeling like that too and thus he seemed quite innocent to me. Understand now?

Originally Posted by Volo

I think it is a horrible idea to try to find new suspects at this point of the Day!

No it isn't! It would be horrible if we didn't consider on any other people than those we had discussed all the day! I don't find these new suspects worrying as most people are still going to vote (or seem to be going to vote) someone whose guilt they've pondered for a long time, not on any last minute whim.

Brinn feels more innocent now. I think I will vote Menel. But I still don't like the fact that Brinn seems to be acting too rationally to be innocent.

edit: xed with Kuru and Volo

[Thinlómien]

Now that is odd. I don't know what to make of Farael and Kuru's little argument... very interesting...

Unlike Farael, I think Kuru's "I have a bad feeling"-post seemed genuine - mostly because he sounded scaringly much like being right about the fact that Menel and Might might be both innocent after all.

I'm really torn between voting Menel and Brinn but would like to avoid double lynch and I have a bad feeling we will lynch yet another ordo toDay...

edit: xed with Brinn and Farael

[Farael]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Now that is odd. I don't know what to make of Farael and Kuru's little argument... very interesting...

Unlike Farael, I think Kuru's "I have a bad feeling"-post seemed genuine - mostly because he sounded scaringly much like being right about the fact that Menel and Might might be both innocent after all.

But Loomy dear, you always have bad feelings! and we need to suspect someone at this point... it doesn't help us if our votes are so divided that the wolves can at the end, vote together and decide whom to lynch.

Look, I'm not saying we should all bandwagon on two suspects 'cos there's a chance of us being wrong... but if two people have been consistently suspected throughout the game, and acted in ways that everyone agrees are wolfish... what other evidence do we need? unfortunately, the Seer is gone without giving us any revelations, therefore previous behaviour is all we have to go on with.

And are you going to tell me Might and Menel have not been suspicious?

Yes, we could go for far-fetched theories and weak accusations, but I personally would rather act on STRONG accusations before grasping at straws.

Edit: more mis-bolding

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I'm a bit surprised though how defensively you reacted when I said I'll read through your posts.

I wasn't being defensive. I don't mind you looking at my posts at all. I would like more people to do so, because the way others talk about what one said can shed some light on them. I'm the only person I know to be innocent, after all. There were some of you who have escaped my sight so far, and with that post, Aganzir, you basically volunteered to be the first in line.


Aganzir:

In 99 she already starts to suspect A Little Green. This seems rather innocent to me. I can't believe the wolves planned to lynch their fellow newbie(!) wolf from day one on. She also says that voting TM is like throwing away one's vote. But then, that's how I felt, too, at that time. Her other thoughts of that day more or less are the same as mine, which doesn't prove anything, but isn't alarming as well.

On day two she suggests that maybe the wolves killed Valier because she wanted to lynch the quiet ones, which is bogus. She backs away from it quickly, which leads me to think she wasn't sincere about it, which makes me think: wolf. She brings forth a strange theory about Menel, Rikae, and me. In 226, Legate is innocent, Lily and Sally are suspicious, Valier is in the middle, and morm and Kath she doesn't know about. She votes Lily at the serious third position. If the vote was wolvish, she's a very cold-blooded wolf. This doesn't seem to fit to the strange things she's been saying all day.

Her main suspects in 293 are two known innocents and two unknowns. She makes a short analysis of Legate, still doubts Lommy but doesn't worry about her later, feels better about Menel and Sally, starts to worry about Brinniel. The way she resumes her suspicions of Sally is worrisome ("I don't like the way she's making me feel"). "If she lives, I'll be torn about her tomorrow" looks bad.

Continues to go after Brinniel, something which I don't share, but which I wouldn't mind, but her reasoning either completely relies on TM's role or are made out of thin air (and look who agrees with Aganzir immediately: Volo (475)). She's a little too forward and backward about the Might.


There definitely are suspicious elements in her posts. The Might's role will tell us something about her. I'm putting her right after Volo and the Might in my suspicion list.

She will be joined there by Farael. Kuru's doubts about TM and Menel seem very honest to me and make me feel a lot better about him. Farael's attack comes out of nowhere and it doesn't seem to have a good intent behind it.

(edit: crossed with..... many)