Werewolf XLII, Mist in the Barrow Downs

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

By that time you couldn't back down without looking worse– also it was better for you to shift the attention back to Macalaure, rather than yourself. I could be wrong, but that's how it looks to me.

Sounds like a stretch to me.

What do you think, Legate? Who should we lynch?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

What do you think, Legate? Who should we lynch?

If you wish, I think Menel's suspicion on Rikae was based on his dreams, either on Night 1 or 2, and therefore, I think she is a Wolf. Of all the people, I am most convinced about her. Otherwise, there is Sally, whom I suspect still, also counting with the voting patterns: it was already mentioned here; Rikae could have voted her, yet chose not to. So that's also one more reason to lynch her, as I believe if Rikae is indeed a Wolf, Sally might be very likely as well.

Before anything happens, I won't be as fast to jump into conclusions who the last wolf might be (and that is, we don't even know about these two). But these two I find likely to be connected. Now, I can't say I would be 100% sure of anyone's innocence, as after reading toDay's posts, it may be almost either way. But all the lines go to Rikae, as I said, of all I am most convinced about her.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Otherwise, there is Sally, whom I suspect still, also counting with the voting patterns: it was already mentioned here; Rikae could have voted her, yet chose not to.

Lest we forget: she could have voted Gwathagor, too. And he's beginning to worry me– as are his interactions with Legate and Sally. Look at this series:

(#294, replying to Rikae's suggestion that the wolves are Sally, Nerwen & Legate)

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

I am beginning to lean this way myself.

(#302)

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

Nerwen and Legate seem the most wolfish to me, at the moment. They have played it pretty safe so far.

(#306)

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

What do you think, Legate? Who should we lynch?

So he's all for lynching Legate, then he's asking him how to vote.


(#311)

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

I am about to retire for the evening. If anyone's interested in my current position, it is this: I will either vote for Legate or Nerwen. I think Rikae is innocent.

No, wait, he's back to lynching him!


Then Sally says:

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Today, he specifically asks Legate, "Who do you think we should lynch?" I'm not (or at least don't think I am) suggesting a wolf pair here, but I think Gwath's sudden change into codependency should be noted.

and he responds:
(#313)

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

I better stick up for myself now, lest Sally's post turn into a lynch mob while I am asleep.

I asked Legate's opinion because his response would help me figure out what I think of him. Kind of a ranging shot, to see how he reacts.

Ideas, anyone? Is he just very confused, or is there something more to it?

Edit: word left out.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Nerwen, I don't think there is anything particularly suspicious in Gwathagor's actions. I believe he is only, as you say, confused. As a new player, such things are possible. Yet you are right that he was a voting option back then as well. Anyway, we cannot collect much from it as long as we don't know identities of the concerned people.

EDIT: One technical question. Roa posted one version of DL time with the narration, Farael proposed something different here. Which one will be the real DL? And Farael, do I understand it right that your version is 7:30 PM GMT?

[Rikae]

Well, I have the flu and I'm also horribly busy toDay, and I also have to leave for class at the deadline, so I think I better vote early toDay.

++Nerwen

Just look over her posts again -- she's showing her fangs more than ever. Now, goodbye all... I might not make it back for DL.

[Nerwen]

Look, let's suppose we lynch Rikae and she's innocent after all. (I don't think it's likely, but let's just suppose.) What do we do then– I mean, apart from beating Menel to a pulp? Lynch Sally? (But part of the case against her depends on Rikae not voting for her.)

I'm just saying this because if we get the wrong person toDay, we're in major trouble, the way the numbers are.

Edit: X'd with Rikae.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Look, let's suppose we lynch Rikae and she's innocent after all. (I don't think it's likely, but let's just suppose.) What do we do then– I mean, apart from beating Menel to a pulp? Lynch Sally? (But part of the case against her depends on Rikae not voting for her.)

I'm just saying this because if we get the wrong person toDay, we're in major trouble, the way the numbers are.

And what do you advise to do? Or, why do you say this? We are going to know toMorrow whether we got the right person or not, but why are you saying this now? This has no value now. This far, there were votes for you, and I am most probably going to vote Rikae. What you say looks like you are, unspoken, but between the lines trying to get us thinking about another possible subject to lynch besides you or Rikae. Why? The idea that pops up in my mind is that you two are both wolves and you want to try to find another (innocent) candidate. Otherwise I cannot see why are you saying this.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

And what do you advise to do? Or, why do you say this? We are going to know toMorrow whether we got the right person or not, but why are you saying this now? This has no value now.

Just last minute doubts, Legate.

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

EDIT: One technical question. Roa posted one version of DL time with the narration, Farael proposed something different here. Which one will be the real DL? And Farael, do I understand it right that your version is 7:30 PM GMT?

Farael said:

Originally Posted by Farael

There are two alternatives as far as what we can do with this day. I would be able to end it 24 hours after it started today (1 30 PM my time tomorrow) but we cannot keep that as a deadline, as I'll sure won't be anywhere near a computer during my trip at 1 PM. If the wolves agree, we can have the day last for 24 hours and the following night last only until the regular deadline. To make it up for them, the wolves would be able to pm for the first three hours of the folowing day. I think that is a fair deal, and it doesnt give them the advantage of being able to communicate during voting time.

Of course, the wolves should PM me their thoughts, and any ordos who object should do the same.

So... I guess we don't know yet when the deadline is.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Look, let's suppose we lynch Rikae and she's innocent after all. (I don't think it's likely, but let's just suppose.) What do we do then– I mean, apart from beating Menel to a pulp?
......
I'm just saying this because if we get the wrong person toDay, we're in major trouble, the way the numbers are.

Therefore we need to take the obvious one out toDay and lynch Rikae to enhance our chances of getting it right toDay.

And if it's wrong then Menel surely owes us an explanation... But I just can't believe it, it would be soo irresponsible behaviour from the seer.


++ Rikae

When you can lynch a werewolf - just do it.

The possibility of losing two ordos before reconsidering lynching her toMorrow is too risky. It's now 3 against 6. If we miss toDay and after they kill me the next Night it will be 3-4 toMorrow and then only one of the innocents overtalked or missing the vote will seal the game for the wolves toMorrow.

So Sally's theory looks very wolvish to me at this point as if we "try" Nerwen toDay we risk too much with our numbers as I said above.

Also Gwath's vote looks pretty terrible right now.

[A Little Green]

Quickly about McCaber's posts toDay, since he was one of those I promised I'd have a look at. Now this is no proper post-by-post analysis, but anyway.

His first post, the fifth of the Day:

Originally Posted by McCaber

Our seer did not survive the night? Truly this is the Dawnless Day.

Mayhap the late Menel struck too close with some of his accusations. He hounded Rikae pretty bad, but he also attacked Mac and Sally.

Rikae is indeed the obvious choice, but perhaps Sally needs looking at, as well.

There is something there, I can't put my finger on it really, but something is just... well... wrong. Something about that "let's be general, annoy no one, state the obvious, look helpful" -manner. Might be just me being paranoid, though, because his later ones say little, but sound good, or let's say neutral, enough. He seems like a possibility for the third, stay-in-the-shadows -wolf, but not utterly alarming. Quite neutral overall, I'd say. Off to read Shasta, then...