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Old 02-25-2008, 01:30 PM   #1
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Meh... I might be around tomorrow, but right now I'm going to do my homework, search for my batteries and listen to Ulver. I leave the work for my dear son, he's old enough to be responcible for his and his daddy's lives.
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Old 02-25-2008, 02:32 PM   #2
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Meh... I might be around tomorrow, but right now I'm going to do my homework, search for my batteries and listen to Ulver. I leave the work for my dear son, he's old enough to be responcible for his and his daddy's lives.

Yeah, he'll be responsible for ENDING his daddy's life. Really, to leave such a child as Cabbie to his own devices is bordering on suicide. When you finish your studies, do find yourself a nice clinic; I'm sure they'll be able to help.

As for Dr. Gwathenstein, is this the truth? Are you volunteering yourself as the first lynching victim? *pats the little kamikaze on the shoulder and pinches his cheek* Alas, I can't take you up on your offer, dearie. I promised Cabbie he'd garner my vote this game. And being one of the eldest members of our village, I feel obligated to set an example and stay true to my word. *puts her glasses on and squints maliciously in Cabbie-Kabob's direction*

P.S. Lest I end up in the same boat as last time, yes I'm TEASING Cabbie, not actually going after him. Yet.
P.P.S. Agan, if you want to have me listed as Sally as opposed to my actual username, that's fine with me; it saves you some keystrokes. Or you can just call me Sally the Insufferable
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Old 02-25-2008, 02:51 PM   #3
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I really do not like the look of Lommy here. She seems to be deliberately provoking Gwathagor and casting suspicion on him for no good reason. Could be nothing, but it still isn't helping anything.
I concur with Little Miss Lommie. They're just two kids having some fun. Boys (and girls) will be boys (and girls) as the saying goes.

I interrupt my own regularly scheduled post so that you young ones may laugh at an old lady. I just noticed that the three "night kills" were listed as gifteds. Very nice touch, Mistress Agan, Currently Reigning Princess of Narrations. I quite like it. I feel dumb for not noticing it right away, but it's amusing nonetheless.

Back to business. Young Mac, why do you feel the need to so quickly label Little Lommie as a wolf? You and your brother Menel seem to take what she says and use it to cast her in an evil light. You should really be nicer to little girls, or your parents may make you sleep outside tonight.
On the other hand, I do think it's odd that Little Lommie explains herself like that. "When I'm innocent, I'm chill, but if I'm a wolf, I'm a nervous wreck." Sorry Lommie, but I think you have the capacity to fake levelheadedness beautifully.
On the other other hand....wait. I only have two. *yells* Could someone lend an old lady a hand? Thank you. Okay, on the other other hand (Rikae the Kind's to be exact; how....kind of her) I do the same thing a lot of times. I'm a terrible bluff, so if I'm lying it's pretty easy to catch me on it. Besides, I'm insufferably honest, which also means that if I am a wolf, I won't lie about it. Perhaps Little Lommie is the same way, which after playing a few times with her is a distinct possibility. Meh. I still want to kill Cabbie.

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Old 02-25-2008, 03:32 PM   #4
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I'm not going to say anything yet, NOT because I'm trying to fly under the radar, but because I'm not sure what to make of the first page. There's so much speculative finger-pointing that goes on on the first day, and so little substance. At this point, everyone looks equally suspicious to me.

I promise I'll contribute in a few hours after I've eaten.

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Menel worries me somewhat. If he is a wolf trying to look helpful and active what he has said would be reasonable indeed. After Boro made his first general suspcions on Lommy (about her overall style) Menel jumps in to second the suspcion using Lommy's banter with Gwath as a reason to suspect her (which clearly misses the mark). He also gets defensive after Lommy answers him and starts talking about wolves tendency to make silly suspicions... which I do find quite ad hoc.

Menel also could be interpreted to try to make Boro feel good by insisting that even if there'd be some rants between them (like there tends to be) Boro would be innocent. Now how come does he know that unless he's a wolf?


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It's all up to us now - a true battle of the wits. Sadly, this means that the innocent side, having me on their team, is severely handicapped.
Now this wasn't actually necessary now was it? I know innocents do weird things as well but somehow this is a bit odd. It's a joke yes but still after Menel's posting possibly the single most suspicious points made toDay this far. Which is not much...

A few ideas thrown into the air before I go to sleep...

Sally I just can't read.

Boro is hard to read as well but for different reasons.

Lommy feels innocent. I mean she's like that. Although it often happens that those you know from RL are the best to fool you...
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A few ideas thrown into the air before I go to sleep...

Sally I just can't read.

That's okay love. No one ever can.

Alrighty young whippersnappers. I'm off to work. Make Granny Sally lots and lots of posties while I'm gone, okay chillens?
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Old 02-25-2008, 04:42 PM   #7
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Nice to see you, too, Sally. As much as I don't want to become a Cabe-kabob, maybe I'll actually give you something to look at this time. And Pappa Volo, I'll try not to disappoint you toDay.

I do enjoy the more experienced ones throwing around suspicion. So I think I'll try it too:

I like how Gwath is refraining from forming an opinion. He could be not trying to leave a paper trail of suspects. Not a full-on point yet, but it could become one.

Anyway, I'll return soon with some serious thoughts in a while. Supper awaits, if I can find some in this house of doom.
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To be honest, I believe people have their own styles of playing and tend to use them regardless of their roles. I honestly don't think we can find a wolf by playing style here, and I would doubt that Lommy actually plays differently based on her role.

*sigh* And now there's my playing style coming back to bite me. Why must I always focus on a single suspect to the exclusion of all else?

Oh, and Nogrod, my comment about Boro being innocent was made because he usually was innocent whenever I suspected him. I am not certain of his role by any means.
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I do not wih to start the loud vs quiet debate once again
I don't care what the rest of you think, but if I have to suffer another one of those arguements I'll club over my own head...
Thankfully, as Menel has already pointed out it is safe to say the majority of us have played before or with one another so we don't have to have a coffee chat about playing styles all the time.

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but let me use them as examples here and as their behaviour this far meets the problem I'm talking about.
No hurt taken Nogrod, I just wanted to let everyone know that my posting will be sporatic at times due to the callings of RL. It's a healthy thing to suspect one another, and probably would be an honor to the game if we at least at fun with it. Which as a warning right now, I tend to take the game too lightly, so if I unintentually hurt someone, I am sorry.
I felt like I did that last time I played, so I'll try not to be so sporatic in my nature, but it will be very hard.

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And innocents never toss out silly suspicions, right?
Heh heh... It is always fun to see how many Schrodinger's Wolf scenarios we can come up with.

Now for the part some of you will hate me for, but I'm going to take an observing stance for awhile, because that is what I do (even if I'm apparently... blind...), and return once I'm finished with schoolwork and taming the disaster zone of my house.
Ta ta for now.

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I think the little orphan speaks a lot of sense - unlike you my son...

I'm looking forwards to this as well as I tend to be the "always look at the bright side of life" -person. With no gifteds we really have to work this out ourselves and that sounds like a challenge. Managing that of course means we need to actually play, everyone of us. No seer will pick the under the radar creepies for us and no ranger will defend our assets either. I guess I need not continue this train of thought any further at this point...

I'd suggest getting rid of that wolfsie with her creepy name as our first step but I'm afraid that's not within our powers.

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I'm glad to see everyone loking on the bright side– of course that's only to be expected of my husband. He only recently stopped referring to this winter as a "cold snap".

I seem to recall from the old tales that gifteds were quite useful in our ancestor's villages.

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At last, at last, no more second-guessing "X is acting strange, but wait, he might be gifted, better say nothing". No more laying low hoping that the seer will stay hidden and get it right in the end.
Yes, but let's not allow that to get twisted into, "well, hey, it doesn't matter who we lynch". I suspect the wolves may try that.

I don't have time to say any more (or read everything properly), but I'm a bit worried about why everyone is going after the poor orphan Lommy. It wasn't nice of her to pick on my son, but children will be children. I really think it was just a joke. Although:

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Would it be far-fetched to paraphrase this paragraph by "When I'm a wolf, I play like this. But now I play like that. Ergo: I'm not a wolf. Of course, I could feign it, but could these eyes lie. "?
Well, it's possible...

I can't say anymore now... working my fingers to the bone,I am, and does anyone care? *goes off muttering*
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Old 02-25-2008, 07:08 PM   #11
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*wakes up*

Wha? Huh? Yes, of course, absolutely right... *mumbles*

Well, this brings back some memories... Back in 457 - of the First Age, mind - yeah, then there were real Werewolves, back when Sauron ruled the Island...

Wait, where am I? Rikae, where are you?!

*tries to relax without falling back to sleep*

Right...well...I don't see anything wrong with good little Lommy, but I am hardly surprised she's getting attention. She's just doing a lot of talking, and no one's too fond of reading through page after page... Just seems Nogrod and Boro and Mac and...who else in this game likes all that analyizing stuff?...haven't gotten quite warmed up yet for anything too lengthy, anyway, so she's the biggest target at the moment.

Really I think Lommy's behaviour can easily be explained by her youth. Lots of energy there. Of course, some of us are hardly acting our age... *glances at Sally*

Macalaure did rather jump on her, but he's just as young and hasty.

*sighs* I can see already I'm going to have trouble understanding you people. Some of you are certainly mad. *glances at Sally, then at Nogrod* I mean, an agreeable, optimistic beggar?!
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To be honest, I believe people have their own styles of playing and tend to use them regardless of their roles. I honestly don't think we can find a wolf by playing style here, and I would doubt that Lommy actually plays differently based on her role.
Huh. This seems unlikely to me. I mean, obviously the player would like to maintain some kind of general consistency regardless of role, so that it's not immediately apparent when they are a wolf, BUT: 1) their goals are going to be different, and so the playing style would have to alter somewhat to suit those goals, and 2) not all players are going to be able to avoid acting different when they are a wolf, if only for lack of confidence.

Good to see Durelin up and about. Who hasn't posted yet? Mithalwen and A Little Green?
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Interesting...what to make of this.

Sally says Mac is quick in labelling Thinlo a wolf:

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Durelin concurs:

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Yet it was myself who first made a connection between Thinlo and wolfishness.

What to make of this?

Maybe they are both raising a point that Mac was quick to switch from Nogrod to Thinlo...hmm that would be a good eye from our two elders in the town. Or maybe they (as wolves) are seeking to try to focus suspicion on Mac based on Thinlo's earlier concerns?

Just thought I'd throw that out there.
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Menel–

Follows Boro's suspicion of Lommy, though he gives his own, very weak, grounds.

Later says this

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Which looks to me like he's saying, "See? I didn't jump on Boro's suggestions at all!"

EDIT: accidentally put in an extra quote
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Is apparently trying to win a prize for saying the least in the most words. A possible "safe" wolf-tactic?
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Ah, the good old Days1s suck discussion... how I've been missing it....

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This just rhymes so beautifully that I had point it out. But I had an actual question too: I suppose submarines mean slip-under-the-radar people? If that is so, I agree with you here.

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To be honest, I believe people have their own styles of playing and tend to use them regardless of their roles. I honestly don't think we can find a wolf by playing style here, and I would doubt that Lommy actually plays differently based on her role.
As a wolf I never intentionally play differently, but it shows in my behaviour nevertheless so I do end up playing a bit differently. And I could bet I'm not the only one here who's like that.

Sally's craziness feels like her innocent craziness and Nerwen pessimism and overall attitude makes me feel good about her too. Boro's reasonableness seems innocentish, but I know better than to trust him - even though I'm not getting the-once-so-common wolvish vibes from him.

Unfortunately, I'm finding it more difficult to judge who looks guilty. No one has really made me suspicious this far. For the sake of my sanity, I hope that Mith and Greenie will look super guilty when they appear. But that, I'm afraid, is a vain hope. Volo and McCaber strike me as having an aura of hidden evilry, but they've both posted very little so I need to know more of them before I judge. Besides, I think I'm going to be naturally wary of McCaber for the next decade or so for his recent extra sly performances both as a cobbler and a wolf...
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Durelin and Sally:

Individually I can't get much of a fix on either of them. Durelin I've never played before, and as for Sally... I mean, as usual she's managed to say something

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I'm a terrible bluff, so if I'm lying it's pretty easy to catch me on it. Besides, I'm insufferably honest, which also means that if I am a wolf, I won't lie about it.
which sounds highly wolfish– but the thing is, she always does. After what happened last game I'm almost afraid to form an opinion of her.

As for them being in it together, and trying to cast suspicion on Mac– yes, I can see that as a possibility. I find it less likely that Gwathagor is part of it too, though. I'll look at him next.

EDIT: X'd with Lommy.
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