Is it possible: 1 Silmaril found: The Arkenstone - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Eönwë · 03-24-2008, 04:58 PM

She could have made them an exception, if it helped with the Plan.

Folwren · 03-24-2008, 08:24 PM

Interesting thought, but I've a vague feeling somehow that Bilbo would not have been permitted merely to bury it with Thoren if it had been a Silmaril.

Elmo · 03-25-2008, 08:33 AM

Perhaps that it would probably be better there, then to have people continually fighting about it.

Gwathagor · 04-14-2008, 11:37 PM

I think if it had been a Silmaril that Gandalf would have said something.

skip spence · 04-26-2008, 02:12 PM

I stumbled over this little note while browsing HOME XI and came to think of this thread.

HOME XI Comment on SS22 pg 108

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For Melian taught to them [The Dwarves Of Belegost] much wisdom (which also they were eager to get, and she gave to them also the great jewel which she alone had brought out of Valinor, work of Feanor ... for he gave many such to the folk of Lorien. A white gem it was that gathered the starlight and sent it forth in blue fires; end the Enfang priced it above a mountain of wealth.

Fits like a glove eh? The Arkenstone's Silmaril-like qualities are explained as it was a work of Feanor in Valinor. And how did the Dwarves find the Arkenstone? They dug it up from Lonely Mountain right. Probably left there by their ancient ancestors I'd say.

What do you think?

Ibrîniðilpathânezel · 04-26-2008, 02:23 PM

Well, if I recall correctly, Thorin said that the Arkenstone was an heirloom of his house. If it had already been among the treasure of the Dwarves of the Lonely Mountain when Smaug moved in, having been handed down through the generations, I'd say there's a good chance that it was Melian's gift to the Dwarves of ages past. Makes sense to me. Nice find.

Eönwë · 04-26-2008, 03:27 PM

So we know that at the very least it was the work of the Feanor (not one of the silmarils because they would only have been recovered after the War).

03-24-2008, 04:58 PM	#1
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Folwren Messenger of Hope Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: In a tiny, insignificant little town in one of the many States. Posts: 5,076	Interesting thought, but I've a vague feeling somehow that Bilbo would not have been permitted merely to bury it with Thoren if it had been a Silmaril. __________________ A young man who wishes to remain a sound atheist cannot be too careful of his reading. - C.S. Lewis

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04-14-2008, 11:37 PM	#4
Gwathagor Shade with a Blade Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: A Rainy Night In Soho Posts: 2,512	I think if it had been a Silmaril that Gandalf would have said something. __________________ Stories and songs.

04-26-2008, 02:23 PM	#6
Ibrîniðilpathânezel Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the Helcaraxe Posts: 733	Well, if I recall correctly, Thorin said that the Arkenstone was an heirloom of his house. If it had already been among the treasure of the Dwarves of the Lonely Mountain when Smaug moved in, having been handed down through the generations, I'd say there's a good chance that it was Melian's gift to the Dwarves of ages past. Makes sense to me. Nice find. __________________ Call me Ibrin (or Ibri) :) Originality is the one thing that unoriginal minds cannot feel the use of. — John Stewart Mill

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Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	So we know that at the very least it was the work of the Feanor (not one of the silmarils because they would only have been recovered after the War). __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place Last edited by Eönwë; 04-27-2008 at 02:10 PM.