Tol-in-Gaurhoth XLVII: Dueling Wizards Werewolf II - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Celuien · 06-05-2008, 01:35 PM

5 more pages?

I don't know how I'm going to catch up on this. I guess I'm just glad I made it back in time to read some of it. *sigh*

That's exactly what I'm going to do. Be back in a moment.

the phantom · 06-05-2008, 01:50 PM

If you look at other WW villages I've been in, if possible I always hold my vote till the very end. One time in particular I actually foiled a WW by sitting on my vote and forcing him to show his cards. That's simply my style. It makes me feel more... in control.

There were three votes still out there, thus Agan had a very real chance of tying with Nerwen, and if that had happened I was considering voting for her. But of course if I jumped forward suddenly to tie Ner I was going to cast a vote for her.

the phantom · 06-05-2008, 02:02 PM

To Nog- I didn't doubt that you would have counted my vote had it been posted on time. I just didn't want to, as you said, make the thread look less neat.

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Originally Posted by The Agan

I have a feeling I'm being... an object.

Guys, the Agan is feeling objectified.

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Originally Posted by Rikae

I am leaning most toward voting for tp or Legate at the moment.

Vote Legate then. I believe I've answered questions about me quite beautifully, thank you.

Isabellkya · 06-05-2008, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

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Originally Posted by Rikae

I am leaning most toward voting for tp or Legate at the moment.

Vote Legate then. I believe I've answered questions about me quite beautifully, thank you.

Does beautifully = truthfully without hidden agendas?

Bah, I'm slowly getting nowhere in finishing my re-reading. Too much multi-tasking.

X'd with Cailin and Aganzir.

the phantom · 06-05-2008, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Roa

Finally, even if you don't think anything I said about phantom has merit, please, please, go back and look at what I said about the EW and her possible behavior.

I don't completely disagree with that.

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Originally Posted by Roa

Honestly, it might be better if you lynch me toDay. ToMorrow, I may be a wolf, and then you won't know what to trust, and what I said that was helpful or a lie. I'm not so worried about being wolf-ified to save phantom, but more that it will cause people to mistrust the advice I've given regarding the EW.

Ack! I have no idea what to think about that. Does it support the innocent-tearing-innocent-apart theory? Who would say this, Ordo-Roa or WW-Roa?

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Originally Posted by Izzy

Does beautifully = truthfully without hidden agendas?

Hmm... I think so. At least I don't think any of my answers contained hidden agendas. Some of my defenses/accusations of others and such do have hidden agendas of a kind, but all of my answers to those questioning me were very straight-forward.

Durelin · 06-05-2008, 02:26 PM

I really want to ignore both Roa and phantom so they end up stuck just talking to each other. I don't want either of them to have the satisfaction of the other being lynched or of themselves being lynched.

On the other hand, I'm with Di in my curiosity.

Anyway.

I'm not even going to attempt to read through everything. Hopefully something interesting will happen before the deadline.

Aganzir has been getting tossed around quite a bit. Target?

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Originally Posted by Sally

Phantom's beating the tar out of Madam Roa and vice versa, which I think is a little over the top

Interesting analysis. I rather think it's the other way around, though.

Cailín · 06-05-2008, 02:32 PM

You're quite an intriguing case, Diamond. For all the posts that you've made -- way more than the quiet players -- I can't see a single interesting point that you've offered. Well, maybe that whole bit about being a rebel and not especially on the villagers' side. And there's the questioning of the phantom for his vote, which you get 'bored' with.

But it looks to me like you're hiding in the open, and a bit eager to express how you don't really feel a part of the game -- i.e. have an evil role.

Diamond18 · 06-05-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cailín

You're quite an intriguing case, Diamond. For all the posts that you've made -- way more than the quiet players -- I can't see a single interesting point that you've offered. Well, maybe that whole bit about being a rebel and not especially on the villagers' side. And there's the questioning of the phantom for his vote, which you get 'bored' with.

Interesting points, being helpful, talking substance etc. are so passe. I want arguments! Bitter ones! I want to read magnificent rows and passionate defenses! Sadly only Roa and phantom are delivering, though yesterday you and Newen and Mac and Legate were runners up.

tp did answer my question, sort of, by way of actually addressing Ka, and so I found it boring to pursue him any longer when I'm sure he'd just reference that post. Probably I could have gotten out some knives and gone at him, oh well at least Roa did.

Perhaps I will fabricate some harsh opinions on people to get things going.

Shastanis Althreduin · 06-05-2008, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Diamond18

Interesting points, being helpful, talking substance etc. are so passe. I want arguments! Bitter ones! I want to read magnificent rows and passionate defenses! Sadly only Roa and phantom are delivering, though yesterday you and Newen and Mac and Legate were runners up.

tp did answer my question, sort of, by way of actually addressing Ka, and so I found it boring to pursue him any longer when I'm sure he'd just reference that post. Probably I could have gotten out some knives and gone at him, oh well at least Roa did.

Perhaps I will fabricate some harsh opinions on people to get things going.

Di! How could you?! She's a wolf, I swear it, she and her fellow evil cohorts and that witch of an Evil Wizard! I swear, Diamond, I will come after you relentlessly until you have paid for what you have done!!

(How's that?

)

Durelin · 06-05-2008, 03:02 PM

I find it funny that Isabel seems to have been quietly following in Roa's footsteps the past two days, focusing on nothing but general debates and the phantom, and yet she voted for Roa.

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Originally Posted by Eonwe with accent marks

I have never played WW before, anywhere.

...

I'm somewhere in btween the first two (after all, I've never played any form of WW before.

Ok- thats cleared, hopefully. I've never played Werewolf.

We got the idea.

Looking back, it's interesting how much Lommy urged on the Aganzir "bandwagon," testing the waters repeatedly before making the first vote.

Shasta posted something vaguely interesting!

Celuien · 06-05-2008, 02:42 PM

Blargh. Every time I start to think that I'll catch up, there's just more and more.

Of course, tp and Roa sort of dominated most of the pages. I don't know what to make of the extensiveness of the argument... in some ways, I'd almost expect them to have a 'duel' if they disagreed about something - they're probably two of the (ahem) strongest personalities I've come across in werewolfing. And these loud tussles have tended to be between innocents when I've run across them before, so I think that points to both of them being non-evil - or at least that's what I hope, because if there's anyone who would be bold enough to have a very visible fight while concealing a dark secret, it would probably be one of them.

So I think I'm going to ignore the fighting for now and see what happens...

Back to reading.

Shastanis Althreduin · 06-05-2008, 02:49 PM

Roa: ++Phantom (Phantom1)
Lhuna: ++Mac (Phantom1, Mac1)
Nilp: ++McCaber (Phantom1, Mac1, McCaber1)
Gwath: ++Lalaith (Phantom1, Mac1, McCaber1, Lalaith1)
Morm: ++Brinniel (Phantom1, Mac1, McCaber1, Lalaith1, Brinniel1)

Votes are getting extremely spread out again; Mac still looks wrong, but Legate looks worse... however, Mac's already been voted for; Legate has not. Two hours left for voting, so I'll hold off a bit.

Legate of Amon Lanc · 06-05-2008, 02:50 PM

I'm back, I'm back! (I'm pink, I'm pink... wait, that was different. Nevermind.)

Anyway, I see it doesn't seem that bad, only two pages while I've been away... hope to catch up in a short while! *Drowns deep into reading*

Aganzir · 06-05-2008, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brinniel

Does everyone make you feel this way? It's just I've noticed you've been saying that line a lot during this game...

Not everyone. For example today you and Legate look like wolves who know each other.

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Originally Posted by Brinn

Okay, when I was reading what you wrote last night I thought you were meaning the exact opposite.
Anyways, I don't think I completely downplaying the possibility of a wolfish vote there. When I wrote "Only if the EW told him to..." I was still considering it was possible. Honestly, I'm just flat out unsure whether Legate's vote was actually wolfish or an innocent's mistake.

Well the thing I posted a while ago was what I thought already then but couldn't just say clearly.
I never said you were "completely downplaying" it. But you downplayed it anyway, and that "only if the EW told him to" doesn't really make it any better.
It was something both a wolf or an innocent would have said - it is true and there's no sense in trying to deny it, as someone would have suggested it anyway in reply to you. So you both encouraged people not to suspect Legate and left yourself a chance to change your mind later (if it started to seem Legate would get lynched).

edit: xed with phantom and Cailín

06-05-2008, 01:35 PM	#1
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,767	5 more pages? I don't know how I'm going to catch up on this. I guess I'm just glad I made it back in time to read some of it. sigh That's exactly what I'm going to do. Be back in a moment. __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff.

06-05-2008, 01:50 PM	#2
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	If you look at other WW villages I've been in, if possible I always hold my vote till the very end. One time in particular I actually foiled a WW by sitting on my vote and forcing him to show his cards. That's simply my style. It makes me feel more... in control. There were three votes still out there, thus Agan had a very real chance of tying with Nerwen, and if that had happened I was considering voting for her. But of course if I jumped forward suddenly to tie Ner I was going to cast a vote for her. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

06-05-2008, 02:42 PM	#11
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,767	Blargh. Every time I start to think that I'll catch up, there's just more and more. Of course, tp and Roa sort of dominated most of the pages. I don't know what to make of the extensiveness of the argument... in some ways, I'd almost expect them to have a 'duel' if they disagreed about something - they're probably two of the (ahem) strongest personalities I've come across in werewolfing. And these loud tussles have tended to be between innocents when I've run across them before, so I think that points to both of them being non-evil - or at least that's what I hope, because if there's anyone who would be bold enough to have a very visible fight while concealing a dark secret, it would probably be one of them. So I think I'm going to ignore the fighting for now and see what happens... Back to reading. __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff.

06-05-2008, 02:50 PM	#13
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	I'm back, I'm back! (I'm pink, I'm pink... wait, that was different. Nevermind.) Anyway, I see it doesn't seem that bad, only two pages while I've been away... hope to catch up in a short while! Drowns deep into reading __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

06-05-2008, 02:32 PM	#7
Cailín Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Lurking in the shadows. Posts: 711	You're quite an intriguing case, Diamond. For all the posts that you've made -- way more than the quiet players -- I can't see a single interesting point that you've offered. Well, maybe that whole bit about being a rebel and not especially on the villagers' side. And there's the questioning of the phantom for his vote, which you get 'bored' with. But it looks to me like you're hiding in the open, and a bit eager to express how you don't really feel a part of the game -- i.e. have an evil role.

06-05-2008, 02:49 PM	#12
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	Roa: ++Phantom (Phantom1) Lhuna: ++Mac (Phantom1, Mac1) Nilp: ++McCaber (Phantom1, Mac1, McCaber1) Gwath: ++Lalaith (Phantom1, Mac1, McCaber1, Lalaith1) Morm: ++Brinniel (Phantom1, Mac1, McCaber1, Lalaith1, Brinniel1) Votes are getting extremely spread out again; Mac still looks wrong, but Legate looks worse... however, Mac's already been voted for; Legate has not. Two hours left for voting, so I'll hold off a bit.