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			I'm working on an updated list of fantasy rosters and adding up points. I'll have it up soon.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			G- Elrond (Rivendell)- 4 DF- Celebrimbor (Formenos)- 4 DF- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)- 3 DF- Gandalf (Rivendell)- 2 MF- the phantom (TIG)- 3 MF- Boromir II (Rivendell)- MF- Nerdanel (Tuna)- 3 MF- Aredhel (Formenos)- 6 MF- Eol (Gondolin)- 4 MF- Hurin (Hithlum)- 8 FW- Maeglin (Gondolin)- 7 McCaber- 47 G- Melian (Doriath)- 1 DF- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)- 3 DF- Gandalf (Rivendell)- 2 DF- Celebrimbor (Formenos)- 4 MF- Eol (Gondolin)- 4 MF- Melkor (Angband)- 1 MF- the phantom (TIG)- 3 MF- Hurin (Hithlum)- 8 FW- Gothmog (Angband)- 7 FW- Ecthelion (Gondolin)- 7 FW- Maedhros (Formenos)- 7 The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs (Eomer)- 38 G- Elrond (Rivendell)- 4 DF- Bregor (Nargothrond)- -1 DF- Turgon (Gondolin)- 2 DF- Cailin (T-I-G)- 3 DF- Celeborn (Rivendell)- 2 MF- Idril (Gondolin)- 3 MF- Melkor (Angband)- 1 MF- the phantom (T-I-G)- 3 FW- Feanor (Formenos)- 7 FW- Gothmog (Angband)- 7 FW- Ancalagon (Angband)- 7 Shadwell Army (Skip)- 39 G- Huan (Formenos)- 4 DF- Ulmo (Valimar)- 2 DF- Caranthir (Formenos)- 4 DF- Salgant (Gondolin)- 2 DF- Celeborn (Rivendell)- 2 MF- Melkor (Angband)- 1 MF- Earendil (Valimar)- 3 MF- the phantom (TIG)- 3 FW- Turin (Hithlum)- 7 FW- Feanor (Formenos)- 7 FW- The Witch King (Mordor)- 4 Lhuna- 30 G- Huan (Formenos)- 4 DF- Luthien (Doriath)- DF- Ulmo (Valimar)- 2 DF- Turgon (Gondolin)- 2 MF- Fingon (Hithlum)- 8 MF- Eowyn (Edoras)- MF- Finrod (Nargothrond)- 8 MF- Eomer (TIG)- -1 MF- the phantom (TIG)- 3 MF- Varda (Taniquetil)- FW- Fingolfin (Hithlum)- 4 Ang- 36 G– Galadriel (Lothlorien)- DF– Goldberry (Breeland)- DF– Luthien (Doriath)- DF– Celegorm (Formenos)- 4 DF– Curufin (Formenos)- 4 MF– Daeron (Doriath)- MF– Maglor (Formenos)- 6 MF– Finrod (Nargothrond)- 8 FW– Maedhros (Formenos)- 7 FW– Maeglin (Gondolin)- 7 FW– Eomer (Edoras)- Cailin- 21 G- Tuor (Gondolin)- 3 DF- Elenwe (Tuna)- DF- Luthien (Doriath)- DF- Balrog #4 (Angband)- 4 MF- Eomer of the Rohirrim (TIG)- -1 MF- Lhuna (TIG)- MF- Aredhel (Formenos)- 6 MF- Aragorn (Rivendell)- 3 MF- Boromir II (Rivendell)- MF- Grimbeorn (Mirkwood)- -1 FW- Maedhros (Formenos)- 7 Beasts and Beauties (Nog)- 54 G- Huan (Formenos)- 4 DF- Cailin (TIG)- 3 DF- Tar Telperien (Armenelos)- 7 DF- Luthien (Doriath)- DF- Balrog #4 (Angband)- 4 MF- Idril (Gondolin)- 3 MF- Aredhel (Formenos)- 6 MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond)- 8 FW- Ancalagon (Angband)- 7 FW- Miriel (Tuna)- 8 FW- Scatha (Mirkwood)- 4 Form- 28 G- Elros (Armenelos)- 5 DF- Lúthien (Doriath)- DF- Gandalf (Rivendell)- 2 DF- Hookbill the Goomba (TIG)- -1 DF- Balrog #2 (Angband)- 4 MF- Amrod (Formenos)- 3 MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos)- 4 MF- Aragorn II (Rivendell)- 3 FW- Formendacil (TIG)- 4 FW- Gwindor (Nargothrond)- FW- Glorfindel (Rivendell)- 4 Silmarillion Squad (Nilp)- 45 G- Elrond (Rivendell)- 4 DF- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)- 3 DF- Celeborn (Rivendell)- 2 DF- Tar Telperien (Armenelos)- 7 MF- Beren (Nargothrond)- MF- the phantom (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)- 3 MF- Glaurung (Nargothrond)- 8 MF- Eomer (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)- -1 MF- Finrod (Nargothrond)- 8 MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos)- 4 FW- Túrin (Hithlum)- 7 Dwarves the Opposition (Elmo)- 15 G- Melian (Doriath)- 1 DF- Forweg (Amon Rhud)- DF- Aule (Taniquetil)- DF- Gram (Helm's Deep)- DF- Elendur (Annumunas)- MF- Melkor (Angband)- 1 MF- Denethor II (Minas Tirith)- MF- Eomer (TIG)- -1 FW- Azog (Moria)- FW- Ecthelion (Gondolin)- 7 FW- Finwe (Tuna)- 7 
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			McCaber- you seem to have switched to an illegal 3-4-3 formation at some point and I didn't catch it. So please switch to one of the approved formations given in the first post. Thanks. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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 Updated standings- Gwath- 191 McCaber- 174 Nogrod- 160 Eomer- 159 Skip- 153 Nilp- 142 Anguirel- 141 Lhuna- 135 Cailin- 128 Form- 126 Elmo- 102 
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 --Melian (Doriath) ++Elrond (Rivendell) --the phantom (TIG) ++ Balrog #2 (Angband) G- Elrond (Rivendell) DF- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos) DF- Gandalf (Rivendell) DF- Celebrimbor (Formenos) DF- Balrog #2 (Angband) MF- Eol (Gondolin) MF- Melkor (Angband) MF- Hurin (Hithlum) FW- Gothmog (Angband) FW- Ecthelion (Gondolin) FW- Maedhros (Formenos) Picks: Rivendell over TIG Formenos over Tuna Gondolin over Armenelos Angband over Hithlum 
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			So, with the regulation three trades, this is what my team ought to look like. Sorry about that, tp. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			And remember everyone, you're not out of it! 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Your four pre-tournament predictions are worth 10 points each, so there are still 40 points to be gained from that. I'm looking at my list here and several of you look likely to pick up 10 extra points anyway, and a couple of you stand a very real chance of gaining 20 or 30 extra points! You can also make up ground on the leaders via your picks (there are still seven games left to pick) and also by hitting slightly better with your fantasy team. You never know when you might just have the perfect team during a given round. 
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			Hurin (Hithlum) 27 Maeglin (Gondolin) 25 Aredhel (Formenos) 24 Ar Pharazon (Armenelos) 23 Eöl (Gondolin) 23 Finrod (Nargothrond) 23 Maedhros (Formenos) 22 The Mouth (Mordor) 22 The Witch King (Mordor) 22 Turin (Hithlum) 22 Eärendil (Valimar) 20 Fëanor (Formenos) 20 Nerdanel (Túna) 20 Scatha (Mirkwood) 20 PS. If I have time today I will send you the fantasy-points of all the teams left just for curiosity's sake... 
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			Formenos over Tuna Armenelos over Gondolin Angband over Hithlum Lose Bregor and Idril, Gain Tar-Atanamir and Maglor G - Elrond (Rivendell) DF - Tar-Atanamir (Armenelos) DF - Turgon (Gondolin) DF - Cailin (T-I-G) DF - Celeborn (Rivendell) MF - Maglor (Formenos) MF - Melkor (Angband) MF - the phantom (T-I-G) FW - Feanor (Formenos) FW - Gothmog (Angband) FW - Ancalagon (Angband) 
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			If I'm allowed to make a few late transfers I will do the following changes to my team (obviously I've not traded with any players from Tuna or Formenos): 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Out: Eärendil, Witch King, Ulmo In: Gothmog (Angband), Turgon (Gondolin), Eöl (Gondolin) Predictions: TIG to beat Rivendell Gondolin to beat Armenelos Angband to beat Hithlum If you won't allow these changes tp, I'm cool with that.  
		
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			Since those results aren't up yet the transfers and predictions will be allowed, Skip.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Okay, then... the following are out: 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			--Gwindor, --Lúthien And also --Aragorn II, Gandalf, Glorfindel, since I am predicting a Rivendell loss to TiG. That means we'll be adding: ++ Sauron, ++Tar Atanamir, ++Fëanor, ++Aredhel, ++Cailin Making my team as follows: G- Elros (Armenelos) DF- Tar-Atanamir (Armenelos) DF- Cailin (TiG) DF- Hookbill the Goomba (TIG) DF- Balrog #2 (Angband) MF- Amrod (Formenos) MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos) MF- Aredhel (Formenos) FW- Formendacil (TIG) FW- Fëanor (Formenos) FW- Sauron (TIG) If, as usual, I've done something illegal... I'm sure you'll inform me. Predictions: Tol-in-Gaurhoth will beat Rivendell. Formenos will beat Túna. Armenelos will beat Gondolin. Angband will beat Hithlum. 
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			You may discount the previous post... 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			I replied here before checking the other thread. 
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			Because I am gracious and merciful I will take your word that you did not know the results when you made that previous post. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			But you are only allowed to make three trades, so you can't do all of that anyway. In addition you were late, and must not escape completely unscathed. So I have come to this decision, Formendacil... Because I am quite certain that your TIG over Rivendell pick was a completely honest one, I will allow you to make your exchanges between those two teams (Sauron for Glorfindel, Cailin for Gandalf), as well as give you your two prediction points for getting that match correct. I hope this is an acceptable compromise. 
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			FORMENOS vs TOL-IN-GAURHOTH 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			ARMENELOS vs HITHLUM The semifinals will begin 48 hours from now. You have till then to make your THREE TRADES and predictions. 
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 Those weren't cards, those were merely flattened roses (from Aragorn II, Boromir II, and Glorfindel II). ![]() Vzv, she authorised me to make the following changes: Quote: 
	
 
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			Out: Turgon, Eöl, Gothmog In: Hurin, Formendacil, Cailin Shadwell Army G- Huan (Formenos) DF- Salgant (Gondolin) DF- Cailin (T-I-G) DF- Caranthir (Formenos) DF - Celeborn (Rivendell) MF- Melkor (Angband) MF- Hurin (Hithlum) MF- The Phantom (T-I-G) FW - Formendacil ((T-I-G) FW- Turin (Hithlum) FW- Feanor (Formenos) Predictions: TIG to beat Formenos Hithlum to beat Armenelos Quote: 
	
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				Fantasy points from the second round of the play-offs.
			 
			
			
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			G- Carcharoth 1 DF- Balrog #2 DF- Uldor -1 DF- Balrog #3 DF- Balrog #4 MF- Balrog #5 -1 MF- Balrog #6 MF- Ulfast -1 MF- Melkor 8 FW- Gothmog 3 FW- Ancalagon 4 ARMENELOS G- Elros 1 DF- Tar Atanamir -1 DF- Tar Ciryatan DF- Tar-Telperien MF- Ar Zimrathan -1 MF- Tar Calmacil 1 MF- Ar Adunakhor 3 MF- Ar Gimilzor 2 FW- Tar Ancalimon 3 FW- Tar Minastir 7 FW- Ar Pharazon 4 FORMENOS G- Huan 3 DF- Celegorm 2 DF- Caranthir 2 DF- Curufin 2 DF- Celebrimbor 2 MF- Amrod 1 MF- Amras MF- Maglor 3 MF- Aredhel 3 FW- Maedhros 8 FW- Feanor 7 GONDOLIN G- Tuor 1 DF- Salgant DF- Galdor DF- Meleth -1 DF- Turgon -1 MF- Rog -1 MF- Idril 3 MF- Penlod MF- Eol 3 FW- Ecthelion 4 FW- Maeglin 4 HITHLUM G- Huor 1 DF- Galdor DF- Marach -1 DF- Gundor DF- Hador MF- Angrod MF- Aegnor -1 MF- Fingon 3 MF- Hurin 5 FW- Fingolfin 3 FW- Turin 4 RIVENDELL G- Elrond 2 DF- Gildor -1 DF- Celeborn DF- Erestor DF- Gandalf MF- Valandil MF- Elladan MF- Elrohir -1 MF- Aragorn 5 MF- Boromir II FW- Glorfindel 3 TUNA G- Orodreth 1 DF- Elenwe DF- Guilen DF- Ingwe -1 DF- Duilin -1 MF- Egalmoth -1 MF- Finarfin MF- Nerdanel 3 FW- Mahtan FW- Finwe FW- Miriel 4 TOL-IN-GAURHOTH G- Drauglin 2 DF- Hookbill 2 DF- Gwathagor 2 DF- Cailin 2 MF- Lhuna -1 MF- Thuringwethil -1 MF- Eomer MF- the phantom 3 FW- Formendacil FW- Nogrod 4 FW- Sauron 7 
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			Hithlum over Armenelos Lose: Melkor, Gothmog, Elrond Gain: Hurin, Turin, Huan G - Huan (Formenos) DF - Tar-Atanamir (Armenelos) DF - Turgon (Gondolin) DF - Cailin (T-I-G) DF - Celeborn (Rivendell) MF - Maglor (Formenos) MF - Hurin (Hithlum) MF - the phantom (T-I-G) FW - Feanor (Formenos) FW - Turin (Hithlum) FW - Ancalagon (Angband) Unfortunately for me, my team required six changes.  
		
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	Armenelos over Hithlum Lose: Melkor, Aragorn, Boromir Gain: Tar Calmacil, the phantom, Fingon G - Tuor (Gondolin) DF - Elenwe (Tuna) DF - Turgon (Gondolin) DF - Balrog 4 (Angband) MF - Eomer of the Rohirrim (T-i-G) MF - Lhuna (T-i-G) MF - Aredhel (Formenos) MF - the phantom (T-i-G) MF - Fingon (Hithlum) MF - Tar Calmacil (Armenelos) FW - Maedhros (Formenos)  | 
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			Points gained during the quarterfinals! (with prediction points added in) 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Gwath- 24 + 2 = 26 G- Elrond (Rivendell)- 2 DF- Celebrimbor (Formenos)- 2 DF- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)- -1 DF- Gandalf (Rivendell)- DF- Balrog #2 (Angband)- MF- Boromir II (Rivendell)- MF- Aredhel (Formenos)- 3 MF- Eol (Gondolin)- 3 FW- Feanor (Formenos)- 7 FW- Ancalagon (Angband)- 4 FW- Maeglin (Gondolin)- 4 McCaber- 34 + 2 = 36 G- Elrond (Rivendell)- 2 DF- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)- -1 DF- Gandalf (Rivendell)- DF- Celebrimbor (Formenos)- 2 DF- Balrog #2 (Angband)- MF- Eol (Gondolin)- 3 MF- Melkor (Angband)- 8 MF- Hurin (Hithlum)- 5 FW- Gothmog (Angband)- 3 FW- Ecthelion (Gondolin)- 4 FW- Maedhros (Formenos)- 8 Beasts and Beauties (Nog)- 34 + 2 = 36 G- Huan (Formenos)- 3 DF- Cailin (TIG)- 2 DF- Tar Telperien (Armenelos)- DF- Elenwe (Tuna)- DF- Balrog #4 (Angband)- MF- Idril (Gondolin)- 3 MF- Aredhel (Formenos)- 3 MF- Melkor (Angband)- 8 FW- Ancalagon (Angband)- 4 FW- Miriel (Tuna)- 4 FW- Sauron (TIG)- 7 The Rage of Ten Thousand Wargs (Eomer)- 30 + 4 = 34 G- Elrond (Rivendell)- 2 DF- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)- -1 DF- Turgon (Gondolin)- -1 DF- Cailin (T-I-G)- 2 DF- Celeborn (Rivendell)- MF- Maglor (Formenos)- 3 MF- Melkor (Angband)- 8 MF- the phantom (T-I-G)- 3 FW- Feanor (Formenos)- 7 FW- Gothmog (Angband)- 3 FW- Ancalagon (Angband)- 4 Shadwell Army (Skip)- 32 G- Huan (Formenos)- 3 DF- Turgon (Gondolin)- -1 DF- Caranthir (Formenos)- 2 DF- Salgant (Gondolin)- DF- Celeborn (Rivendell)- MF- Melkor (Angband)- 8 MF- Eol (Gondolin)- 3 MF- the phantom (TIG)- 3 FW- Turin (Hithlum)- 4 FW- Feanor (Formenos)- 7 FW- Gothmog (Angband)- 3 Silmarillion Squad (Nilp)- 24 + 8 = 32 G- Elrond (Rivendell)- 2 DF- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)- -1 DF- Celeborn (Rivendell)- DF- Tar Telperien (Armenelos)- MF- Eol (Gondolin)- 3 MF- the phantom (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)- MF- Hurin (Gondolin)- 5 MF- Eomer (Tol-in-Gaurhoth)- MF- Melkor (Angband)- 8 MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos)- 3 FW- Túrin (Hithlum)- 4 Ang- 19 G– Galadriel (Lothlorien)- DF– Goldberry (Breeland)- DF– Luthien (Doriath)- DF– Celegorm (Formenos)- 2 DF– Curufin (Formenos)- 2 MF– Daeron (Doriath)- MF– Maglor (Formenos)- 3 MF– Finrod (Nargothrond)- FW– Maedhros (Formenos)- 8 FW– Maeglin (Gondolin)- 4 FW– Eomer (Edoras)- Lhuna- 11 G- Huan (Formenos)- 3 DF- Luthien (Doriath)- DF- Ulmo (Valimar)- DF- Turgon (Gondolin)- -1 MF- Fingon (Hithlum)- 3 MF- Eowyn (Edoras)- MF- Finrod (Nargothrond)- MF- Eomer (TIG)- MF- the phantom (TIG)- 3 MF- Varda (Taniquetil)- FW- Fingolfin (Hithlum)- 3 Cailin- 23 + 2 = 25 G- Tuor (Gondolin)- 1 DF- Elenwe (Tuna)- DF- Turgon (Gondolin)- -1 DF- Balrog #4 (Angband)- MF- Eomer of the Rohirrim (TIG)- MF- Lhuna (TIG)- -1 MF- Aredhel (Formenos)- 3 MF- Aragorn (Rivendell)- 5 MF- Boromir II (Rivendell)- MF- Melkor (Angband)- 8 FW- Maedhros (Formenos)- 8 Form- 21 + 2 = 23 G- Elros (Armenelos)- 1 DF- Lúthien (Doriath)- DF- Cailin (TIG)- 2 DF- Hookbill the Goomba (TIG)- 2 DF- Balrog #2 (Angband)- MF- Amrod (Formenos)- 1 MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos)- 3 MF- Aragorn II (Rivendell)- 5 FW- Formendacil (TIG)- FW- Gwindor (Nargothrond)- FW- Sauron (TIG)- 7 Dwarves the Opposition (Elmo)- 12 G- Melian (Doriath)- DF- Forweg (Amon Rhud)- DF- Aule (Taniquetil)- DF- Gram (Helm's Deep)- DF- Elendur (Annumunas)- MF- Melkor (Angband)- 8 MF- Denethor II (Minas Tirith)- MF- Eomer (TIG)- FW- Azog (Moria)- FW- Ecthelion (Gondolin)- 4 FW- Finwe (Tuna)- 
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			++Huan --Ancalagon ++Ar-Pharazon --Maeglin ++Tar-Minastir G- Huan (Formenos) DF- Celebrimbor (Formenos) DF- Gandalf (Rivendell) DF- Tar-Atanamir (Armenelos) DF- Balrog #2 (Angband) MF- Boromir II (Rivendell) MF- Aredhel (Formenos) MF- Eol (Gondolin) FW- Ar-Pharazon (Armenelos) FW- Feanor (Formenos) FW- Tar-Minastir (Armenelos) I am in much the same situation as Eomer. I need to make at least four more trades. 
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			Updated standings- 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			Gwath- 217 McCaber- 210 Nogrod- 196 Eomer- 193 Skip- 185 Nilp- 174 Anguirel- 160 Cailin- 153 Form- 149 Lhuna- 146 Elmo- 114 There are still points to be gained in the semis and finals from players and predictions. And some of you are still eligible to receive pre-tournament prediction bonuses. 
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			I think we all need to change at least half of our squads... I have six to change...  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			![]() I'll leave my defences and lower-midfield as they are and concentrate on the attacking players now. So Balrog #4 of Angband, Elenwë of Tuna and Idril of Gondolin will stay. My changes will then be: -- Melkor (Angband) ++ the phantom (T-I-G) tp is a beast as you all know - and fair enough to be called a beauty as well. Gah, I just don't seem to have too many chances anymore... so I need to explain more... Yeah, I had a chance to pick Lhuna for his place and stick for a real beauty but somehow I do not share Nilp's optimism of her getting other things done in the field but taking cards... ![]() -- Ancalagon (Angband) ++ Nogrod (T-I-G) I'm bringing myself back to the team. As a beast to be sure. Giving myself a second chance then... -- Miriel (Tuna) ++ Ar Pharazon (Armenelos) Just look at the guy... pure beast in man's clothing, the attacker on the blessed realm, forging a marriage against the will of the wife, the greed, the lust, the pride... That's just for my team now that the real beasts are out... Beasts and Beauties (Nog) G- Huan (Formenos) DF- Tar Telperien (Armenelos) DF- Cailín (Tol-In-Gaurhoth) DF- Elenwë (Túna) DF- Balrog #4 (Angband) MF- Idril (Gondolin) MF- Aredhel (Formenos) MF- the phantom (Tol-In-Gaurhoth) FW- Nogrod (Tol-In-Gaurhoth) FW- Ar Pharazon (Armenelos) FW- Sauron (Tol-In-Gaurhoth) And predictions then... Tol-In-Gaurhoth beats Formenos Even if the Formenos forwards and Aredhel will make it a tough day for T-I-G defences the phantom and Nogrod will score two goals each and sink the hopes of the elven lords foor good. Armenelos gets beaten by Hithlum Now this is the tricky prediction... I have no chances to use Hithlum players as they are a bunch of straight males but I might try to profit from their prowess this way... Gondolin already showed that the great Armenelos defence can be broken and my God how Hurin and Turin will execute that! 
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			I'm in quite a bit of trouble here. I was banking on the exact opposite scenario than what happened. 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			--Elrond (Rivendell) ++Elros (Armenelos) --Ecthelion (Gondolin) ++Sauron (TIG) --Gothmog (Angband) ++ Feanor (Formenos) Let's hope that's enough to pull through. G- Elrios (Armenelos) DF- Tar Atanamir (Armenelos) DF- Gandalf (Rivendell) DF- Celebrimbor (Formenos) DF- Balrog #2 (Angband) MF- Eol (Gondolin) MF- Melkor (Angband) MF- Hurin (Hithlum) FW- Sauron (TIG) FW- Feanor (Formenos) FW- Maedhros (Formenos) Picks: Formenos over TIG Hithlum over Armenelos 
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			Why, surely Turin's a beauty at least. He had the prettiest face of all the mortal men in all the ages of the world, as far as I remember (which isn't saying much though I'm afraid). Or does a man have to be gay (no, not the happy-gay) to be a potential beauty?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			Well, limited to three trades, I'm clearly going to have to think things through here... 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			--Gwindor, --Aragorn II, --Balrog #2 leaving Lúthien as my token deadweight, I guess, and adding ++Fëanor, ++Aredhel, ++Tar-Atanamir G- Elros (Armenelos) DF- Lúthien (Doriath) DF- Cailin (TIG) DF- Hookbill the Goomba (TIG) DF- Tar-Atanamir (Armenelos) MF- Amrod (Formenos) MF- Ar Adunakhor (Armenelos) MF- Aredhel (Formenos) FW- Formendacil (TIG) FW- Fëanor (Formenos) FW- Sauron (TIG) And, for my predictions: Tol-in-Gaurhoth defeats Formenos. Armenelos defeats Hithlum. 
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			7 Miriel of Tuna 6 Ar Pharazon of Armenelos Maedhros of Formenos 5 Tar Minastir of Armenelos Turin of Hithlum Sauron of Tol-In-Gaurhoth 4 Feanor of Formenos Hurin of Hithlum Nogrod of Tol-In-Gaurhoth Ancalagon of Angband Maeglin of Gondolin The Witch King of Mordor Assist leaders- 6 Nerdanel of Tuna 5 the phantom of Tol-In-Gaurhoth 4 Tar Ancalimon of Armenelos Ar Adunakhor of Armenelos Fingon of Hithlum Hurin of Hithlum Feanor of Formenos Eol of Gondolin Melkor of Angband 
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			Formenos will beat TIG Armenelos will beat Hithlum 
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