''Three cheers for Captain Frodo, Lord of the Ring''

Originally Posted by Nerwen

No doubt whatever. But that's not what you said. You said



The answer to that question is: No, he didn't. Bang! There goes that part of your argument.




Yes, we do. You are basing your argument that Gandalf is a hypocrite (for not letting Pippin make light-hearted comments about Sauron when he does so himself) on something in this quote. Therefore you must explain what that something is.

If you light a brand of fire close to a creature, urging them to speak or suffer the pain of fire, that is reasonable evidence to suggest Gollum was nearly burnt alive by Gandalf, as nearly is not the same as definately.

There is little point trying to convince others too wearily over whether a qoute is lighthearted to a small degree or not. If you don't see it, why should that bother anyone else?