Tol-in-Gaurhoth LII: Star Crossed II: Together for Eternity

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

That did it...

Rikae = a baddie
Macalaure = a baddie

But they are not on the same side. I quess Rikae's team is the one that was responsibole for the deaths of Lal and Kit and Mac's team killed Legate and tried to kill me. Unless there are two more teams which kind of makes this speculation anew... and which I believe in.

But that doesn't change the basic point: they both have made their mark and have been remarkably vocal even if the timezones have been unfriendly (to Mac at least) toDay. The early voting compared with their increased activity after that is just one thing.

I don't follow your reasoning. They spoke of making sacrifices, but in this game, it's all or nothing for the baddies. If one dies, both die.

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Oh, and even though I have rarely guessed Rikae's role correctly in the past, I'm pretty sure that we're dealing with an innocent Rikae this time. And, yes, that is her personality, and the fact that it comes through genuinely and not distorted makes me feel quite confident with my judgement.

I am going to take Mac at his word this time. Hopefully I'm not being stupid.

++Shastanis

I realize it won't make any difference at this point. I also hope this doesn't seem like too much of a throwaway vote. I really honestly mean to look more closely at Shasta tomorrow.

[Diamond18]

I have arrived. Rikae's death in a bit.

[Diamond18]

Rikae was, to date, the most popular choice for a lynching. The Lonely Hearts, growing weary of all this heart stabbing, decided to push her off a balcony for a change of pace. They watched as she plummeted down, breaking her body upon the heart shaped cobblestones. Once again, there was a decided lack of concern over her demise. She had no lover.

Somewhere, far off, Venus was laughing.

The Living Lonely Hearts Club:

Groin
Aganzir
Gollum
Nogrod
Brinniel
Sally
Shasta
Gwath
Mac
McCaber
Fea
Greenie
Eomer

Hearts Which Have Stopped Beating:

Diamond (Lonely Heart)
Lommy (Lonely Heart)
Legate (Lonely Heart)
Lalaith (Lonely Heart)
Eönwë (Lonely Heart)
Kitanna (Lonely Heart)
Rikae (Lonely Heart)

[Diamond18]

In the dark of the cold, cold night two figures crept through the cold, nighty darkness with murder in their not-so-lonely-hearts. They arrived at Aganzir’s door, only to be driven away by one who was intent on her protection.

Meanwhile, elsewhere, Macalaure was not so lucky. When the bells tolled, they tolled for him. He was found the next morning, suffocated with a pillow, and while the Lonely Hearts were not happy to see another one bite the dust, none were especially devastated by his death. If you know what I mean.

Day 4 dawns. Discuss amongst yourselves.

The Living Lonely Hearts Club:

Groin
Aganzir
Gollum
Nogrod
Brinniel
Sally
Shasta
Gwath
McCaber
Fea
Greenie
Eomer

Hearts Which Have Stopped Beating:

Diamond (Lonely Heart)
Lommy (Lonely Heart)
Legate (Lonely Heart)
Lalaith (Lonely Heart)
Eönwë (Lonely Heart)
Kitanna (Lonely Heart)
Rikae (Lonely Heart)
Macalaure (Lonely Heart)

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Miss Di, Re: Mac

When the bells tolled, they tolled for him. He was found the next morning, suffocated with a pillow, and while the Lonely Hearts were not happy to see another one bite the dust, none were especially devastated by his death. If you know what I mean.

Just wanted to say that SO much about this narration cracked me up. Job well done yet again, love. Now get some sleep.



Alternatively, I'm loving, loving, LOVING our Ranger right about now. Two successful saves in a row. Wow. Kudos.



I need to do some reading to catch up on things. I'll probably come up with a handy dandy vote tally sometime soon, but I'm editing a paper for a friend and promised I'd get it to her ASAP, so I'll be back the first chance I get.

Hope everyone's Halloween/just plain Friday night festivities were enjoyable.

~~Sally~~


P.S. I'll also give my promised explanation as to why I voted for the ever-loveable Rikae when I return, in case anyone was wondering what happened to it.


ETA: By the way, random internet malfunction about half an hour ago, so if I don't return for a long while, that'd be why. Just so you know I didn't go submarine on you (again....ahem)

[Brinniel]

Ugh, now I feel bad about Rikae. But at the time her intentions didn't at all look good.

Meanwhile, our Ranger continues to do an excellent job at protecting (that, or the lovers are being ever so predictable). We're doing an awful job at catching the baddies, but at least the Ranger is buying us some time (at least if those protected aren't actually lovers).

So why kill Mac? Is it because of what he said about Rikae? Or were the lovers trying to set up Nogrod?

[Gwathagor]

Originally Posted by Brinniel

So why kill Mac? Is it because of what he said about Rikae? Or were the lovers trying to set up Nogrod?

As we approached DL yesterDay, it seemed like Rikae knew something important and that she was giving Mac hints about it. I would guess that the lovers killed Mac out of fear that he might have figured out what it was she was talking about (though I still have no idea).

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

As we approached DL yesterDay, it seemed like Rikae knew something important and that she was giving Mac hints about it. I would guess that the lovers killed Mac out of fear that he might have figured out what it was she was talking about (though I still have no idea).

Woooow. Gwath's got himself a TARDIS. The time of his post is 1:59am. It's only 1:25.


(Yes, loves, I know it's the time change, but it still took me a minute. Off to do work now, but I figured you could all get a good laugh from my randomness)


And I thought much the same thing. I'll get into it more when I talk about Rikae later, but I assumed that the lovers may have thought Mac and Rikae were onto something so they decided to tie up the loose end, as it were. (No offense the fine gent in question, of course)

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by Gwathagor

As we approached DL yesterDay, it seemed like Rikae knew something important and that she was giving Mac hints about it. I would guess that the lovers killed Mac out of fear that he might have figured out what it was she was talking about (though I still have no idea).

Good point. Considering Nogrod's willingness to get Mac lynched, Mac looked to be in trouble today. But what was this secret? It baffled me at the time and I still can't guess.

Here it is:

"Go look over the day's posts. There is something someone said earlier which explains why I've been saying some of the admittedly odd things I have. When you find it (as I'm sure you can) tell me what, in your opinion, should be done about it." -- Rikae

Is she speaking about a villain using, to her mind, unfair tactics? Why then would she not just come out and say it? I was thinking that she was simply trying to convince Mac of her innocence, but why then would something need to "be done about it"?



Aganzir protected, eh? Whatever does this mean. I'll be thinking about this today.

As for the Rikae lynch, I'd normally say the bandwagon looked suspicious, because one after another voters jumped on her, but I have to admit she really did look suspicious.

[Brinniel]

A vote count:

Mac: ++Eomer (Eomer 1)
Groin: ++Rikae (Eomer 1, Rikae 1)
Rikae: ++Gollum (Eomer 1, Rikae 1, Gollum 1)
Eomer: ++Greenie (Eomer 1, Rikae 1, Gollum 1, Greenie 1)
Aganzir: ++Gollum (Eomer 1, Rikae 1, Gollum 2, Greenie 1)
Shasta: ++McCaber (Eomer 1, Rikae 1, Gollum 2, Greenie 1, McCaber 1)
Gollum: ++Rikae (Eomer 1, Rikae 2, Gollum 2, Greenie 1, McCaber 1)
Nogrod: ++Rikae (Eomer 1, Rikae 3, Gollum 2, Greenie 1, McCaber 1)
Fea: ++Rikae (Eomer 1, Rikae 4, Gollum 2, Greenie 1, McCaber 1)
McCaber: ++Mac (Eomer 1, Rikae 4, Gollum 2, Greenie 1, McCaber 1, Mac 1)
Sally: ++Rikae (Eomer 1, Rikae 5, Gollum 2, Greenie 1, McCaber 1, Mac 1)
Brinn: ++Rikae (Eomer 1, Rikae 6, Gollum 2, Greenie 1, McCaber 1, Mac 1)
Gwath: ++Shasta (Eomer 1, Rikae 6, Gollum 2, Greenie 1, McCaber 1, Mac 1, Shasta 1)

Did not vote: Greenie

[Gollum the Great]

Now we are what, -7 +12??? We're doing pretty bad. And it appears we have 2 lover pairs. Today we'd better vote right.

[Nogrod]

YesterDay's votes (given reasons given for those still alive):


Mac for Eomer


Groin for Rikae - "I know, I suck at this game. I've been focusing on getting my GPA up lately and have lost interest and time for this. I expect that this will be my last game so I'm just going to vote right."


Rikae for Gollum

(Btw., one reason to believe that Rikae and/or Mac was a wolf yesterDay was surely the fact that they voted very early but were still able to stick around for hours and hours - and neither of them said they were especially confident with their votes when they casted them; I'm pretty confident that was one of the main reasons a pair of lovers went for Mac last Night.)


Eomer for Little Green - "I will vote for the other person incriminated by my somewhat arbitrary Nogrod-theory ... I can't go with feelings because I'm sure Greenie is capable of displaying an air of nonchalance over any hidden evil."

(Btw. Eomer defended Gollum a bit earlier

Originally Posted by Eomer

Oh dear. I see a dangerous bandwagon forming. Not that there are no points against Gollum but don't let today's voting be wasted. Pick your own vote; don't let others do it for you.

even if I'm not too sure there actually was a real bandwagon forming... there sure was only one vote at that point.)


Aganzir for Gollum - well, she had been after him for a long time and I'm not going to retype or search for all her points...


Shasta for McCaber - quite out of the blue (his only post yesterDay just voting?). The day before he said - among reasons to vote others - "I could vote McCaber without a qualm just to get a total unknown out of the way".


Gollum for Rikae - "taking these words from one [me that is] who appears innocent" so completely washing his own hands of the vote?


Nogrod for Rikae - I'm not going to recite all that, really...


Fea for Rikae - "I have to, love. I'm sure you understand. Before today I found you suspicious, but I might have concentrated elsewhere. Today, though? With the code-talk with Mac and the twitchy reactions to everything? I can't not."


McCaber for Mac - "Ordinarily it would be Rikae all the way, but I promised not to do so this round". I found no other explanation for it... Interesting as it was a totla throw-away vote after all?


Sally for Rikae - "I'll (hopefully) explain in a bit". She made the same promise twice in the early hours of toDay as well...


Brinn for Rikae - after a long sustained suspcion on yesterDay she said: "I apologise Rikae if you are actually telling the truth, but as of now I just don't believe you are".


Gwath for Shasta - "I realize it won't make any difference at this point. I also hope this doesn't seem like too much of a throwaway vote. I really honestly mean to look more closely at Shasta tomorrow".


Greenie said already early she will not and she didn't vote.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Greenie: ++Gollum (Gollum 1)
Eomer: ++Gwath (Gollum 1, Gwath 1)
Nog: ++McCaber (Gollum 1, Gwath 1, McCaber 1)
McCaber: ++Gollum (Gollum 2, Gwath 1, McCaber 1)

Still to vote:

Groin
Aganzir
Gollum
Brinniel
Sally
Shasta
Gwath
Fea

[Gwathagor]

Nice going, Ranger. Quality work.

Well, Nogrod is still alive. That is interesting, given how much was made of his impending death yesterDay. Evidently the lover-teams figured that if they didn't kill him in the Night, we'd find him suspicious enough to do the job ourselves. The possibility that Nogrod is a wolf (I use the word in the technical sense of "guilty party") seems lessened by the minimal degree to which he used his unique position yesterDay as a basis for persuasion or authority. He seemed, to me, to be genuinely resigned to his fate. Maybe what happened is that each lover-pair assumed the opposing pair would kill Nogrod, with the result that neither did?

ToDay I'd like to examine some of our less-noticed players - people like Shasta, McCaber, and Greenie. I'm way to tired to do it right now, but that's my goal anyway. We'll see.


EDIT: Crossed with Brinniel