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William Cloud Hicklin · 01-20-2009, 09:23 AM

It's interesting, and never expanded on, that the Elves of Valinor (or at least Eressea) frequently visited Numenor before the place went bad- but apparently no farther East. T did note in the margin of Glorfindel that perhaps G returned to M-E on a Numenorean ship.

That Osgiliates into another subject- it seems that Exiles who physically sailed back into the West were confined to Eressea, but this isn't the case with re-embodied Nodor, who after Mandos live in Valinor proper (definitely stated in the cases of Finrod and Glorfindel). I suppose this is because ex-cons are considered 'purged;' it may also be that living returnees have enough of a taste for the Mortal Lands left that timeless Aman would be unpleasant for them.

01-20-2009, 09:23 AM	#17
William Cloud Hicklin Loremaster of Annúminas Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 2,330	It's interesting, and never expanded on, that the Elves of Valinor (or at least Eressea) frequently visited Numenor before the place went bad- but apparently no farther East. T did note in the margin of Glorfindel that perhaps G returned to M-E on a Numenorean ship. That Osgiliates into another subject- it seems that Exiles who physically sailed back into the West were confined to Eressea, but this isn't the case with re-embodied Nodor, who after Mandos live in Valinor proper (definitely stated in the cases of Finrod and Glorfindel). I suppose this is because ex-cons are considered 'purged;' it may also be that living returnees have enough of a taste for the Mortal Lands left that timeless Aman would be unpleasant for them. __________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it.