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Old 02-03-2009, 03:07 PM   #1
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I really did want you to be evil and was kind of disappointed by my meager findings. I still hope I'm wrong.
Aww and I hope you're evil too. Otherwise I'm making a total fool of myself yet again.
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Old 02-03-2009, 03:48 PM   #2
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The more I think about it, the more I get convinced that Legate was killed because he was a considered dangourus. He might have spottet a pattern in the behaviour of a wraith, I don't know if he reached the right conclusion though.

The fact that Mac is left alive makes me think that the Wraiths like to confuse the village, if they do not have a certain pattern of voting, it will make them more difficult to find. Legate does not seem like a kill designed to confuse, rather it seems like it is designed to criple us or to remove a threat.

I am mostly thinking about the likes of Lari and Mira, but this is just hunches. . . .
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Old 02-03-2009, 04:29 PM   #3
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Rikae had her listed as red, saying there isn't much against her being a wraith, and she died the following night. I'm not sure a wolf would want to bring attention upon herself like that, but then again she hasn't received very much suspicion afterwards.
Excactly!

It could be that the solution to the latest kills is a very simple one, fear. I know that normally wraiths shy away from killing the people that are openly hostile towards them, but we must be carefull that we do not take these things for granted. It could be that a wraith chose to play in this very direct manner and hoped that the villagers of Bree would think that they had been the victims of a setup.

Anyways Mira figures on both Rikae and Legate's lists of suspects.

Would the other wraith accept this direct aproach. . .it is difficult to answer.
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Old 02-03-2009, 04:47 PM   #4
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Eye Well I wanted to save this...

My comment about Sagittarius is this: the characteristics(when Shasta was still doing them):
* Freedom loving / free-spirited
* Idealistic / believing
* Moral, often having a religious streak. Righteous.
* Intelligent / intellectual
* Positive / optimistic
* Confident and Impulsive
* Energetic / active
* Adventurous / risk-taking
* Independent / unfettered
* Impatient / restless
* Love of travel

And the symbol is the archer. I'm the Ranger. For truth not lie, I'm the Ranger.

Night protections:
1: Brinn(way to go on my part)
2: Mac
3: No one, I messed up and had a busy day and thought I protected Lommy, but apparently it never actually got done.
4: Mac
5: Agan

I also spelled out Strider in one of my posts explaining my Durelin vote. Also when I was talking about newbies on the first Day I distinctly used the word "protection".

And Agan, I didn't vote Lommy the first day, I voted Durelin.

Off to Bio now.
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Old 02-03-2009, 04:54 PM   #5
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No explanation to why you tell us this now?

Just to give us another "known" innocent?
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Old 02-03-2009, 04:55 PM   #6
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Lari's the Ranger?!

How annoying– I was just in the middle of making a lovely case on why she's a wraith.

Why did you reveal now, Lari?

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Old 02-03-2009, 05:03 PM   #7
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On second thoughts–

Of course, anyone can leave coded messages, and if Lari's a wraith she's had at least two old hands to give her tips.

Ummm... what do we do?

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Old 02-03-2009, 05:24 PM   #8
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I imagine Lari foresaw her lynching tonight, having come a close second last night, and having been Legate's vote last night as well. Lari was definitely my number one suspect for today, following yesterday's terrible choice. Whether or not she is the ranger in truth, this may have been her only way out. But if she were a villager would it be good for the team to reveal at this point?

If she's not who she claims, and we let her live, she will last the night for sure.

If we let her live, and she IS the ranger, the wraiths will either find her in the night, or leave her be and hope we waste a lynch tomorrow. But if they leave her be they risk wasting a kill (the list of innocents is getting smaller).

Leaving a trail early on is good, but it's not proof. However, I think it might have bought Lari another day, or at least a night. It would be very ingenious if this were designed, but I don't think I can vote for her now.
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Old 02-03-2009, 05:16 PM   #9
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Ouch sorry Lari. I was just about to vote for you & go to bed, and now I'm blaming myself for having the ranger reveal. Way to go me, too, randomly voting for you on day 1.

And sorry I confused your Lommy suspicion with your vote.

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The fact that Mac is left alive makes me think that the Wraiths like to confuse the village, if they do not have a certain pattern of voting, it will make them more difficult to find. Legate does not seem like a kill designed to confuse, rather it seems like it is designed to criple us or to remove a threat.
It certainly seems so. I think Mac is the cobbler but it's anyway confusing... Something should be done about him before it's too late.
What do you mean with a certain pattern of voting?

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Would the other wraith accept this direct aproach. . .it is difficult to answer.
If it makes one look good after the other is lynched, then probably yes.

I wouldn't be too worried, Nerwen. If she's not the ranger, the real ranger should have no reason to stay hidden this late in the game.

Anyway I don't think I can vote yet... I simply need to gather my thoughts again. I'll be back before the deadline, now I need some sleep.
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Old 02-03-2009, 05:18 PM   #10
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Lynching a wraith-to-be if xe were revealed is a bad idea, Agan? It may be a bit harsh, but that would at least keep the number of wraiths from increasing.

And now for a short analysis:

Aganzir: Nothing particularly bad here, voted for Lari, Mac, Fea, Brinn, and A Little Green. Though I do find it suspicious that she never seems to let Lari off the hook and the strange need to refute everything Mac says seems unusual as well.

Beregond: Has slipped under my radar for a while. Voted for Mac a lot, and contributed to Brinn's lynching. Also voted Greenie and Fea, both of whom would seem logical choices at the time. Doesn't appear to be particularly evil at this point.

Rune: Votes for a lot of known innocents, and voted Durelin on Day 1 when she wasn't a popular choice. Possible wraith.
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Old 02-03-2009, 05:25 PM   #11
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Eye Notice how I used this icon after Agan asked for my reasoning?

Ah, I see that Lari has confirmed what I suspected about her from yesterDay.

I noticed the Saggitarius ==> Archer ==> Rangers are known for their skill with bows thing when I was analyzing her posts, and as I read more, I found that she constantly suspected Durelin for reasons relating to her Rangerish role. I take it, of course, that these suspicions were actually because you thought she was posing as the Ranger to avoid a lynch, Lari?

Anyhow, the reason I didn't outright state what the Saggitarius reference meant was due to the need to protect a Gifted from wraith-killings.
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Old 02-03-2009, 05:27 PM   #12
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1420! *glug glug glug*

Oh, to clarify the thing about Rune, he's used the "split the vote but make the choice appear legit" tactic as a baddie before.

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Rune: Votes for a lot of known innocents, and voted Durelin on Day 1 when she wasn't a popular choice. Possible wraith.
You got me there Menel! I thought I could fool you, but you found me out. . . I made you think that I only voted for Wraiths, but infact I have tricked you all and in secret voted for innocents.


Anyways, I guess Beregond is right in his guesses about Lari's relevation.


Answer to Aganzir: I just ment it is easier when you can find a pattern in the voting. . .if it appears random you can use it to very little.
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Old 02-03-2009, 06:30 PM   #14
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I probably won't be back before deadline, so I will do like Salvador Allende. . . say "¡Viva Chile! ¡Viva el pueblo! ¡Vivan los trabajadores!" and take my leave.
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Old 02-03-2009, 06:39 PM   #15
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If she's not the ranger, the real ranger should have no reason to stay hidden this late in the game.
What? If she's not the real ranger and the real ranger reveals himself, he'll be dead. If he stays hidden he can still make a save and buy us an additional Day! Then we would lynch Lari and probably find her to be the cobbler and nothing is won.

Having said that, I don't see any reason why Lari should reveal her role at this point. No vote was cast and her death far from certain. Now she will be killed at night. Then again, it does look honest.

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If we let her live, and she IS the ranger, the wraiths will either find her in the night, or leave her be and hope we waste a lynch tomorrow.
Unlikely. Leaving a known innocent alive is not that much of a risk, but if the ranger is left alive and happens to successfully protect somebody, that's a really bad thing for the wraiths. Lari is dead, unless the wraiths have some reason to believe she's lying (i.e., she's the cobbler).
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Just a reminder: no random voting toDay, please. We really need to get either a wraith or Ferny this time, or we are in major trouble toMorrow.

EDIT: X'd with Mac.
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I probably won't be back before deadline, so I will do like Salvador Allende. . . say "¡Viva Chile! ¡Viva el pueblo! ¡Vivan los trabajadores!" and take my leave.
I don't suppose it would be worth asking why...

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No you can't. I can protect myself.
Oooh handy! Are you sure about that though?
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