Tol-in-Gaurhoth LVII - Chess Game for Middle Earth: Game Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Brinniel · 02-25-2009, 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mnemo

But if the not-dead person was indeed a Black Knight save, that implies that whoever it was was evil. And since the Knight can't protect two days in a row...

Of course, that's too much for an innocent to hope for. I think it's still in the Queen's interest to keep those wolves around for a little while longer.

Actually I can't see why the Queen wouldn't want to kill a wolf if she has the opportunity. While it may help to have them around in numbers, they're still not on the same team and at some point the wolves will want the kill the BQ...and it could be especially bad if the BB dreams of her. If she has a window of opportunity to eliminate one of them, why not take it? For one thing, it's a guaranteed kill. The only reason I can see why she wouldn't is if she suspects the save was the BR and feared that he may hunt her. I think I would almost rather leave the BQ alone just for toDay if there's any possibility that she might kill a wolf.

Then again, I don't know if we can be sure she targeted a wolf. Would it be possible that the wolves chose to protect someone else if they suspected/knew that they were the Black Pawn? Of course, if the Black Queen eliminated the BP instead it wouldn't be so bad either...but then again, that could be another reason for her not to kill her original target since the BP should be on her side..

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Originally Posted by Sally

I'm again concerned by Brinn and Phantom's votes. Now I realize Phantom was being silly (and he did explain himself toDay) but that's two Days in a row in which Brinn has influenced the....oh my giddy aunt. Phantom may be right. And if anyone makes sense for the double vote power, it's her.

Or phantom, since he has voted no differently than me.

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Originally Posted by Sally

Day One it was a tie between Gwath and Fea. Brinn put in her vote for Gwath at the last minute, and Gwath was the unfortunate loser of the tie. (What if it really wasn't a tie?)

I doubt that. Mods will sometimes give subtle hints or even slightly mislead the village, but I've never heard of a mod that would outright lie to us. Which is exactly what he would've had to do for that scenario to work out.

Since Shasta's around, perhaps he can tell us. Was the Day 1 lynch really a tie? Or is the actual vote count to remain a secret?

Anyway, we can't really know what the WQ's power is for sure...it's all just speculation. One possibility that came to mind is perhaps the White Queen has the power to save a lynch candidate she thinks is innocent. Kind of like a ranger, but during the Day. But then, why wouldn't there just be no lynch instead?

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Originally Posted by Sally

Brinn just jumped out at me because she's been alarming me for a bit and your suggestion made enormous amounts of sense.

Just wondering, how does alarming* equal White Queen? I thought the WQ was on the village's side. Is there a reason think otherwise?

*By alarming, I'm assuming you mean suspicious.

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Originally Posted by Mnemo

Sweetheart, Nerwen's dead.

I think Sally was talking about her computer. Yes, apparently she has a name for her computer. Though strange that of all names, it is called Hunter...

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Originally Posted by Izzy

My thought, is if the WQ were responsible for it - wouldn't Shasta of attributed xer for it; rather than Sauron?

An interesting thought. Though, what does that imply? That Sauron is not only controlling the game but is in it as well? Bah, at this point I'm feeling like anything is possible...

satansaloser2005 · 02-25-2009, 02:06 AM

True, Brinn, Phantom's voted the same way you have, but I think it would be pretty silly for him to bring up the true nature of his role so flippantly. I mean, it's Phantom, but still....

Shasta's actually gone to bed for the night. I'm not saying he'd lie to us so much as withhold information. Completely different barrel of red herring.

Well, I certainly named my computer before the game started so yeah. Draw from it what conclusiong you may; I'm going to try to catch the baddies if you don't mind.

satansaloser2005 · 02-25-2009, 02:12 AM

I've got all of Willa's posts cued up and will run through them at some point, but I'm kind of considering going to bed, or at least getting off the board for the night. I'll make sure to get to my analysis as soon as I can though. (Hopefully I'll be around during my rubbish seminar class tomorrow if I can manage to get a spot where the professor won't see me, because distraction is the only thing keeping me sane hehe.)

Mnemosyne · 02-25-2009, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Brinn

Then again, I don't know if we can be sure she targeted a wolf. Would it be possible that the wolves chose to protect someone else if they suspected/knew that they were the Black Pawn? Of course, if the Black Queen eliminated the BP instead it wouldn't be so bad either...but then again, that could be another reason for her not to kill her original target since the BP should be on her side.

Touche, and a good thing to keep in mind. All we know is that the Queen did not get a kill last night.

Brinniel · 02-25-2009, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sally

True, Brinn, Phantom's voted the same way you have, but I think it would be pretty silly for him to bring up the true nature of his role so flippantly. I mean, it's Phantom, but still....

Actually that's exactly something I'd imagine phantom doing...because I know how much he loves to bluff and come up with all sorts of ploys. Yes he is the phantom, which is why we should be ready to expect anything from him.

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Originally Posted by Sally

I'm not saying he'd lie to us so much as withhold information.

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Originally Posted by Shasta on Day 1

Fea and Gwath to be put up for lynching, chosen by randomizer.

He said the lynch was chosen by randomizer. If the lynch was already predetermined by the WQ, then it wouldn't be randomized. Unless he was being dishonest, which I suppose is entirely possible, though I cannot see why a mod would intentionally mislead a village like that. Being lied to about the results of a lynching seems rather unsporty to me.

Okay, I seriously must get to bed now. I can hardly keep my eyes open...

satansaloser2005 · 02-25-2009, 03:32 AM

For Brinn, regarding Shasta.

Crap, you're right. Sorry, I missed that bit when I was reading before. Thanks for correcting me.

And on that note I need to get to bed too. I was just checking in quick before I toddled off, so I'll see you fine people later. Leave me lots of posts to look at!

Shastanis Althreduin · 02-25-2009, 04:39 AM

Checking in. Can't sleep. I can tell you all that the Day 1 lynch was indeed randomized. I went to random.org and asked for a random number out of 100. Gwath was odd numbers, Fea was even numbers. The random number generator tossed out #39, which is odd, so Gwath was executed.

02-25-2009, 02:06 AM	#2
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	True, Brinn, Phantom's voted the same way you have, but I think it would be pretty silly for him to bring up the true nature of his role so flippantly. I mean, it's Phantom, but still.... Shasta's actually gone to bed for the night. I'm not saying he'd lie to us so much as withhold information. Completely different barrel of red herring. Well, I certainly named my computer before the game started so yeah. Draw from it what conclusiong you may; I'm going to try to catch the baddies if you don't mind. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

02-25-2009, 03:32 AM	#6
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	For Brinn, regarding Shasta. Crap, you're right. Sorry, I missed that bit when I was reading before. Thanks for correcting me. And on that note I need to get to bed too. I was just checking in quick before I toddled off, so I'll see you fine people later. Leave me lots of posts to look at! __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

02-25-2009, 04:39 AM	#7
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	A voice from beyond the abyss... Checking in. Can't sleep. I can tell you all that the Day 1 lynch was indeed randomized. I went to random.org and asked for a random number out of 100. Gwath was odd numbers, Fea was even numbers. The random number generator tossed out #39, which is odd, so Gwath was executed. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

02-25-2009, 02:12 AM	#3
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	I've got all of Willa's posts cued up and will run through them at some point, but I'm kind of considering going to bed, or at least getting off the board for the night. I'll make sure to get to my analysis as soon as I can though. (Hopefully I'll be around during my rubbish seminar class tomorrow if I can manage to get a spot where the professor won't see me, because distraction is the only thing keeping me sane hehe.) __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.