Tol-in-Gaurhoth LVII - Chess Game for Middle Earth: Game Thread

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Durelin

I'm glad you all knew who the seer was and exactly whom she dreamed of. As if it really seems that way, with your voting records.

Due to the fact that it seemed apparent that the White Seer had dreamed only of innocents, her votes were not binding. As I was in no way attempting to personify the role of Seer, I felt no reason to mirror her actions, and was consequently free to follow my own intuition.

This statement you've made is ridiculous: suggesting that we should mimic the votes of somebody who doesn't know who is evil is suggesting the same as if you said we should all bandwagon with the opinion of a newbie ordo. Either way is a cop out. Don't bother defending yourself if your defense is simply weak mud-slinging.

Originally Posted by Brinn

Really, is that a good enough reasoning alone to vote for Dury?

Yes. Yes it is.

I will not recant my vote today. It simply isn't going to happen.

[Durelin]

Originally Posted by Fea

This statement you've made is ridiculous: suggesting that we should mimic the votes of somebody who doesn't know who is evil is suggesting the same as if you said we should all bandwagon with the opinion of a newbie ordo. Either way is a cop out. Don't bother defending yourself if your defense is simply weak mud-slinging.

That's your argument against me, hon, thrown right back at you. Sorry you don't like it.

[Durelin]

Basically you're suggesting that I "should have known better", but instead voted for people we think the seer might have dreamed innocent, so therefore I am evil.

I'd call that mudslinging -- that I am either "too stupid" to haved recognized who the seer was and who they dreamed of, or I am a wolf. And either reason is a good one to vote for me.

Bleh. I need to stop wasting my time. Maybe I'll be back later. I'll at least come back to vote, don't worry about that.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Durelin

Basically you're suggesting that I "should have known better", but instead voted for people we think the seer might have dreamed innocent, so therefore I am evil.

No, I'm claiming outright that you were trying to get 'known' innocents killed off early so that in the final stretch the ordos had no information to relying on. It would be mighty convenient if everybody the White Seer dreamed of died before they could be useful.

The argument would make no sense if the wolves didn't know who the Seer was, but given that they slaughtered her last Night, nobody can really deny that they had an inkling.

[Feanor of the Peredhil]

Originally Posted by Durelin

That's your argument against me, hon, thrown right back at you. Sorry you don't like it.

No. Your rebuttal states that I should have voted for who the Seer voted for. Which is foolish when the Seer was voting on hunch just like everybody else.

My accusation states that you were intentionally trying to kill the people the Seer was hinting were innocent.

Major difference being, I was trying to kill wolves, and you were trying to lynch innocents.

[Durelin]

Don't you remember we just found out who the seer was toDay?

I really do have to go now. So sad, I was so enjoying this...

[Rikae]

I don't get it, Fea. I don't want to make the mistake of voting for you again because you aren't making sense - I've seen the folly of that now - but why are you so sure Durelin was sure about the seer and her dreams? I admit, I didn't know that (I must be an idiot) - I thought she might be something, but I was far from sure and certainly didn't have a theory about her possible dreams. For that matter, why are you so sure the wolves knew, either? If we're correct in assuming her dreams were all innocent, there wouldn't have really been anything to "jump out" at the wolves; plus, killing Kath seems to fit their pattern in any event.

EDIT: X'd with Brinn

[wilwarin538]

Due to my confusion about practically everyone , one of the only one's I'm still very suspicious of is Mnemo, so I will vote for her for now, since I'm not confident about being able to come back on later.

++Mnemo

[Brinniel]

Originally Posted by Fea

No. Your rebuttal states that I should have voted for who the Seer voted for. Which is foolish when the Seer was voting on hunch just like everybody else.

I think she was trying to say that you are accusing her for suspecting the seer's known innocents, yet so did several other players. And that you seem to think that everyone should've gone along with Kath and assume Sally and tp innocent. I don't think she ever said that you should copy Kath's votes. Why is Dury so suspicious for suspecting known innocents, but not anyone else who suspected either of them?

And why do you think everyone knew who the seer was? I didn't know; I only had an itch.