Tol-in-Gaurhoth LVII - Chess Game for Middle Earth: Game Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

satansaloser2005 · 02-27-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rikae

Fea → Dury
Wilwa → Mnemi
Rikae → Sally

Still to vote: Phantom, Izzy, Mnemi, Fea, Brinn, Dury

I think we need some kind of consensus here. Otherwise, it's too easy for Izzy and the cobbler to snipe someone at DL.

Fea, I have no objection you voting for Durelin. I could possibly switch to her myself. points to post about “if Sally is good, there's a wolf and a bear among her, you, Mnemi and Brinn” She's not my top suspect out of those, though. My list, from most to least suspicious, is more like:

Brinn
Fea
Durelin
Mnemi

Well, if my opinion matters at all I'm totally up for a Durie lynch.

Isabellkya · 02-27-2009, 08:28 PM

Well which is it Sally?
At first you said you were dreamed as a White Pawn.
Now you say you were dreamed a White Rook.

What else are you being untruthful about?

satansaloser2005 · 02-27-2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Isabellkya

Well which is it Sally?
At first you said you were dreamed as a White Pawn.
Now you say you were dreamed a White Rook.

What else are you being untruthful about?

Nothing. You saw what Shasta said, and it was different than what I originally understood the situation to be.

Izzy, you're evil. I'm not. This is law according to the combined seers. Enjoy being killed.

(And I'll still send you cookies if you like!

)

satansaloser2005 · 02-27-2009, 08:30 PM

Mnemo:

Vote and go to bed, or I'm stealing your internet cord and voting for you.

(By that I mean ++Mnemo, not I'll cast her vote for her. Bah, you know what I mean....)

satansaloser2005 · 02-27-2009, 08:32 PM

Oh, and I should point out that Mnemo and Brinn are reversible on my list. Right now I'm more concerned about Mnemo, but that doesn't mean I've forgotten about Brinn. Just for clarification.

Isabellkya · 02-27-2009, 08:36 PM

Actually, no. I didn't see what Shasta said. Only what you claim he said.

'tis fine. You got caught in a lie. xD

X'd since Mnemosyne's #820

satansaloser2005 · 02-27-2009, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

Actually, no. I didn't see what Shasta said. Only what you claim he said.

'tis fine. You got caught in a lie. xD

Rikae, if you don't get killed toNight (and I don't either) odds are there will be two innocent lynches, right?

Sorry, poor phrasing. What I mean is....if the baddies target two other people, we're down two innocents with no chance of catching a baddie.

How confident are you that you can find one of the other baddies in your next pick?

In other words, I'd rather get a baddie out of the way for sure, mostly because of numbers.

In even other words, I think I'd prefer Izzy most of all. Give me your thoughts.

Mnemosyne · 02-27-2009, 08:32 PM

Not till there's a consensus. I know that Brinn and Duri would be willing to go for Fea (as would I), but I'd rather go after someone that the people I'm actually trusting at the moment would like to go after.

Durelin · 02-27-2009, 08:36 PM

Lynch me, and you're down another innocent, AND you learn nothing. No roles are proven. All the baddies are still around.

Rely on probability if you want. But maybe a better way of doing that would be to actually, genuinely randomly choose from us remaining 'unknowns'.

satansaloser2005 · 02-27-2009, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durelin

Lynch me, and you're down another innocent, AND you learn nothing. No roles are proven. All the baddies are still around.

Rely on probability if you want. But maybe a better way of doing that would be to actually, genuinely randomly choose from us remaining 'unknowns'.

Between the four of you unknowns, two of you are bad. I'll take the 50/50 chance, risky as it may seem.

Durelin · 02-27-2009, 08:37 PM

And before you lynch me you'd better tell me why you suspect me, all of you! Yes, all of you!

You're going to have to work at this, and not just come to a dandy ol' consensus.

Durelin · 02-27-2009, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sally

Between the four of you unknowns, two of you are bad. I'll take the 50/50 chance, risky as it may seem.

There's something called bad luck.

And Fea.

Mnemosyne · 02-27-2009, 08:39 PM

Fine, Dury. I'm rolling a d4.

1 is you,

2 is Fea,

3 is Brinn,

and 4 is a reroll.

Sorry, but I'm not voting myself. I know that I'm innocent.

I rolled a 3.

++Brinn

I expect sally to wake me up if you end up consensing otherwise so that I can change my vote. I am not leaving this up to chance.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 02-27-2009, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mnemosyne

I am not leaving this up to chance.

Except you just voted purely by chance instead of picking a player. That's responsible.

Mnemosyne · 02-27-2009, 08:29 PM

Well, if we can consense soon that'd be marvellous. I'm ill, and really need bed.

Rikae · 02-27-2009, 08:40 PM

Since I only have the one retraction, I don't really want to use it early, in case something strange happens.

I don't have much of a preference betwen Fea and Dury, but I don't want to vote Mnemi and it seems I have no support for Brinn.

EDIT: X'd with Mnemi's vote and everything after. Seems I do have support, after all.

satansaloser2005 · 02-27-2009, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rikae

Since I only have the one retraction, I don't really want to use it early, in case something strange happens.

I don't have much of a preference betwen Fea and Dury, but I don't want to vote Mnemi and it seems I have no support for Brinn.

Understandable. That's why I'm waiting to vote, so if we have a big circus at the end I'm not just sitting there watching with no power to do anything.

Brinniel · 02-27-2009, 08:42 PM

As of now, I will probably vote for Fea.

More from me later; sorry I'm watching Dollhouse.

satansaloser2005 · 02-27-2009, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brinniel

As of now, I will probably vote for Fea.

More from me later; sorry I'm watching Dollhouse.

Oooo I missed/am missing it tonight. You'll have to tell me about it later.

Here's a question. If the innocents are mostly/all wiped out but the Queen and Knight are still alive, what happens? Do they keep playing until someone wins?

Feanor of the Peredhil · 02-27-2009, 08:46 PM

Here, I'm going to do this so that you can rest a little easier about retractions still floating around:

--Durelin

++Durelin

I think all responsible players should do the same.

Not necessarily vote the same, I mean. You could vote for Izzy and I wouldn't bat an eyelash, but I think that everybody should vote, retract, and revote early so that there isn't a last minute death rush and we lose due to disorganized incompetence.

satansaloser2005 · 02-27-2009, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Feanor of the Peredhil

Here, I'm going to do this so that you can rest a little easier about retractions still floating around:

--Durelin

++Durelin

I think all responsible players should do the same.

Not necessarily vote the same, I mean. You could vote for Izzy and I wouldn't bat an eyelash, but I think that everybody should vote, retract, and revote early so that there isn't a last minute death rush and we lose due to disorganized incompetence.

Good point. Believe me, once my vote's locked in though not much is going to change it. I just haven't decided who I'm going with yet.

(Besides, I usually keep my retractions open just in case someone does happen to pull a stunt right before deadline)

I'm up for Izzy as well. It gets rid of a known wolf and improves our chances come Night fall. Thoughts from Rikae and others?

Durelin · 02-27-2009, 08:47 PM

So why does not voting for an apparently known wolf make sense?

Durelin · 02-27-2009, 08:49 PM

Oh, yeah, duh.

++Izzy

--Izzy

++Izzy

satansaloser2005 · 02-27-2009, 08:55 PM

So we have

Fea-->Durie (locked in)
Durie-->Izzy (locked in)
Mnemo-->Brinn

A thought. What happens if Izzy gets magically de-lynched again?

Our secondary candidate better be a pretty good guess, that's all I'll say.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 02-27-2009, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Durelin

So why does not voting for an apparently known wolf make sense?

It's a matter of principle. I once lost my job over refusing to wear a stupid hat, you know. Went vegetarian because my brother called me a hypocrite. Etcetera, etcetera. I'm a matter of principle type person.

On the off chance that Rikae isn't being truthful, I won't be able to deal with the knowledge that I didn't pursue reasonable certainty when I had the chance to do so.

I've been convinced of you since this morning, and suspicious of Izzy for a couple days. I really don't care which of you dies first, as long as you both go.

Probably cross posting with 83 people.

02-27-2009, 08:28 PM	#2
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	Well which is it Sally? At first you said you were dreamed as a White Pawn. Now you say you were dreamed a White Rook. What else are you being untruthful about? __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

02-27-2009, 08:30 PM	#4
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	*Mnemo: Vote and go to bed, or I'm stealing your internet cord and voting for you. (By that I mean ++Mnemo, not I'll cast her vote for her. Bah, you know what I mean....) __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit."* Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

02-27-2009, 08:32 PM	#5
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Oh, and I should point out that Mnemo and Brinn are reversible on my list. Right now I'm more concerned about Mnemo, but that doesn't mean I've forgotten about Brinn. Just for clarification. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

02-27-2009, 08:36 PM	#6
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	Actually, no. I didn't see what Shasta said. Only what you claim he said. 'tis fine. You got caught in a lie. xD X'd since Mnemosyne's #820 __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

02-27-2009, 08:39 PM	#13
Mnemosyne Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Between the past and the future Posts: 1,159	Fine, Dury. I'm rolling a d4. 1 is you, 2 is Fea, 3 is Brinn, and 4 is a reroll. Sorry, but I'm not voting myself. I know that I'm innocent. I rolled a 3. ++Brinn I expect sally to wake me up if you end up consensing otherwise so that I can change my vote. I am not leaving this up to chance. __________________ Got corsets?

02-27-2009, 08:36 PM	#9
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	Lynch me, and you're down another innocent, AND you learn nothing. No roles are proven. All the baddies are still around. Rely on probability if you want. But maybe a better way of doing that would be to actually, genuinely randomly choose from us remaining 'unknowns'.

02-27-2009, 08:37 PM	#11
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	And before you lynch me you'd better tell me why you suspect me, all of you! Yes, all of you! You're going to have to work at this, and not just come to a dandy ol' consensus.

02-27-2009, 08:29 PM	#15
Mnemosyne Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Between the past and the future Posts: 1,159	Well, if we can consense soon that'd be marvellous. I'm ill, and really need bed. __________________ Got corsets?

02-27-2009, 08:40 PM	#16
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Since I only have the one retraction, I don't really want to use it early, in case something strange happens. I don't have much of a preference betwen Fea and Dury, but I don't want to vote Mnemi and it seems I have no support for Brinn. EDIT: X'd with Mnemi's vote and everything after. Seems I do have support, after all.

02-27-2009, 08:42 PM	#18
Brinniel Reflection of Darkness Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull. Posts: 2,983	As of now, I will probably vote for Fea. More from me later; sorry I'm watching Dollhouse. __________________ Nolite te bastardes carborundorum

02-27-2009, 08:46 PM	#20
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Here, I'm going to do this so that you can rest a little easier about retractions still floating around: --Durelin ++Durelin I think all responsible players should do the same. Not necessarily vote the same, I mean. You could vote for Izzy and I wouldn't bat an eyelash, but I think that everybody should vote, retract, and revote early so that there isn't a last minute death rush and we lose due to disorganized incompetence. __________________ peace

02-27-2009, 08:47 PM	#22
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	So why does not voting for an apparently known wolf make sense?

02-27-2009, 08:49 PM	#23
Durelin Estelo dagnir, Melo ring Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 3,063	Oh, yeah, duh. ++Izzy --Izzy ++Izzy

02-27-2009, 08:55 PM	#24
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	So we have Fea-->Durie (locked in) Durie-->Izzy (locked in) Mnemo-->Brinn A thought. What happens if Izzy gets magically de-lynched again? Our secondary candidate better be a pretty good guess, that's all I'll say. __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.