Tol-in-Gaurhoth LVII - Chess Game for Middle Earth: Game Thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Isabellkya · 03-02-2009, 01:03 PM

I think you should just call it a draw; and everyone shares the Win.

Durelin · 03-02-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Izzy

I think you should just call it a draw; and everyone shares the Win

Now that sounds like a good idea.

And aww, Shasta, don't say that. This was a very interesting game with a very cool concept and at least I thought it was fun! People just seem to forget that it is a game...for fun...I'm guilty of that myself sometimes.

Brinniel · 03-02-2009, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Shasta

I also don't think I'll be hosting again. That should make some of you happy.

Aw c'mon, don't be so hard on yourself. You were not wrong in any way on the choices you made. This was a more experimental game than others, so some of the problems that arose could not be foreseen. Keep in mind that a lot of past mods have had obstacles or problems arise during the game. In the game I modded, one of my wws had to drop out early and I had to make the decision whether to create a new one. I made what I thought was the best decision, but still not everyone was happy. And I know there have been mods who have encountered issues a lot worse than that...and a lot worse than this as well.

So don't let a few problems discourage you. Like I keep telling you, I have absolutely nothing against you. I thought your game was a wonderful idea and you did a great job working on it. When you first told me about the concept about someone secretly having extra vote power, I found it fascinating. It's a new role which adds some interesting twists, though like any experimental role, it could be tweaked and altered a bit if ever used in future games. Of course you have to try out a new role first before you can know what could be improved.

All in all, I did enjoy this game. I think I just put too much time and effort into WW which can be cause for extra frustration. So perhaps in the future I shouldn't try so hard and be more carefree and less analytical. Now we'll just have to see if I can actually change my style.

Btw, will the coin flip be streamed on live video?

the phantom · 03-02-2009, 02:45 PM

Real quickly- I'm fine with letting Mith be the winner.

We certainly can't play out the final day now due to the fact that Mnem made telling RL statements after you asked for input, as well as the fact that the timing of the conflict is is now known to everyone, meaning that Wilwa, who was not even around at the time, is suddenly extremely clean looking for RL reasons, for she could not have sent in the early PM.

Personally I'd like to think that the day would not have ended in a coin flip, but we can never know.

Mnemosyne · 03-02-2009, 03:50 PM

Yeah, well, before I even posted I talked to Shasta and he said last Day wasn't happening. But, yeah, last Day is even more in shambles than it was.

I call live coinflip on webcam!

If it lands on its side, Mith wins.

wilwarin538 · 03-02-2009, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by the phantom

as well as the fact that the timing of the conflict is is now known to everyone, meaning that Wilwa, who was not even around at the time, is suddenly extremely clean looking for RL reasons, for she could not have sent in the early PM.

haha, if we had made it to a Day 6 that would have been my exact defence for myself.

Coin flip, draw, Mith win, it's all fine with me.

the phantom · 03-02-2009, 04:37 PM

I've got it!

Frodo tosses the Ring into Mount Doom and it explodes, knocking over the chess board! The game was entirely a distraction meant to keep Sauron occupied while Frodo crept past undetected beneath the board.

I'm thinking I'd rather not have a coin flip at this point. Technically, the worst the baddies could've managed was a coin flip, while the best the goodies could've managed was a coin flip. Two of the players left were guaranteed not to vote for a WW, while the other two had a 50% chance, so if we wanted to be true to the odds the coin would need to land correctly for the good side twice in a row to secure victory.

But rather than do that, I would be content to declare Mith the victor, as she is the highest ranking chess piece still on the board, and stood no chance of being lynched.

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Grey wins...

HoME XVI, Derivative Works, Part C, Werewolf Games, section H-

It was an age of compromise in Middle-Earth. In an event unforseen by even the Valar, good and evil united, and the forces of greyness swept over the lands unchecked, doing deeds of compassion and cruelty far and wide. And Mithalwen beheld all that was done, and saw that it was good- and evil. Then she rejoiced and sang, and the peoples of Middle-Earth heard her voice and its surpassing beauty, and they swore allegiance to her and honored her above all others.

wilwarin538 · 03-02-2009, 05:20 PM

sounds good to me

Rikae · 03-02-2009, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Isabellkya

I think you should just call it a draw; and everyone shares the Win.

Seconded - but Mith should win.

Anyway, I want to apologize to Shasta and the rest of you for getting mad. It's impossible to know how an experimental game will turn out, and the point is not to quibble about whether the game is balanced, but play the best one can with the roles and rules as they are... I remembered that too late. Good game, everyone!

03-02-2009, 01:03 PM	#1
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	I think you should just call it a draw; and everyone shares the Win. __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

03-02-2009, 02:45 PM	#4
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	Real quickly- I'm fine with letting Mith be the winner. We certainly can't play out the final day now due to the fact that Mnem made telling RL statements after you asked for input, as well as the fact that the timing of the conflict is is now known to everyone, meaning that Wilwa, who was not even around at the time, is suddenly extremely clean looking for RL reasons, for she could not have sent in the early PM. Personally I'd like to think that the day would not have ended in a coin flip, but we can never know. __________________ the phantom has posted. This thread is now important.

03-02-2009, 03:50 PM	#5
Mnemosyne Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Between the past and the future Posts: 1,159	Yeah, well, before I even posted I talked to Shasta and he said last Day wasn't happening. But, yeah, last Day is even more in shambles than it was. I call live coinflip on webcam! If it lands on its side, Mith wins. __________________ Got corsets?

03-02-2009, 04:37 PM	#7
the phantom Beloved Shadow Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: The Stadium Posts: 5,971	I've got it! Frodo tosses the Ring into Mount Doom and it explodes, knocking over the chess board! The game was entirely a distraction meant to keep Sauron occupied while Frodo crept past undetected beneath the board. I'm thinking I'd rather not have a coin flip at this point. Technically, the worst the baddies could've managed was a coin flip, while the best the goodies could've managed was a coin flip. Two of the players left were guaranteed not to vote for a WW, while the other two had a 50% chance, so if we wanted to be true to the odds the coin would need to land correctly for the good side twice in a row to secure victory. But rather than do that, I would be content to declare Mith the victor, as she is the highest ranking chess piece still on the board, and stood no chance of being lynched. ******** Grey wins... HoME XVI, Derivative Works, Part C, Werewolf Games, section H- It was an age of compromise in Middle-Earth. In an event unforseen by even the Valar, good and evil united, and the forces of greyness swept over the lands unchecked, doing deeds of compassion and cruelty far and wide. And Mithalwen beheld all that was done, and saw that it was good- and evil. Then she rejoiced and sang, and the peoples of Middle-Earth heard her voice and its surpassing beauty, and they swore allegiance to her and honored her above all others. __________________ the phantom** has posted. This thread is now important. Last edited by the phantom; 03-02-2009 at 04:46 PM.

03-02-2009, 05:20 PM	#8
wilwarin538 Fluttering Enchantment Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,508	sounds good to me __________________ Comme une étoile amarante Comme un papillon de nuit C'est la lumière qui m'attire La flamme qui m'éblouit Fenris Muffin