WWLVIII: Escape From Angband (or Behavioral Modification) - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nilpaurion Felagund · 03-22-2009, 08:55 AM

Well, it's being late. Must go and vote.

Good
the phantom
satansaloser2005
Nerwen
Mithalwen
Rikae
Durelin

Goo
Mnemosyne
Lariren Shadow
Gwathagor
Feanor of the Peredhil
Brinniel

Go
Nienna
Macalaure
wilwarin538

G
Nogrod
Isabellkya
Kath

' (being four letters short of a word)
the phantom's apprentice
Nilpaurion Felagund

With this I have concluded that she must leave the village.

++Kath

Good night!

Lariren Shadow · 03-22-2009, 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nienna

I'm just epically confused.
What I've learned so far:

How to make bullets

You learned how to make bullets? I'm slightly jealous.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

' (being four letters short of a word)
the phantom's apprentice
Nilpaurion Felagund

...So you are the apprentice but not? I am way to confused...boo not enough caffeine and sleep in my system yet.

Feanor of the Peredhil · 03-22-2009, 09:14 AM

Someone went out at three in the morning. Did something stupid. I approve.

Gone for much of Day.

+
Feanor of the Peredhil
Brinniel
Nogrod
Lariren Shadow
Nienna

+-
Rikae
Durelin
Macalaure
wilwarin538

-
Isabellkya
Kath
Nilpaurion Felagund
Nerwen
Mithalwen
Gwathagor

Don't trust Nilp. Never have. Don't trust Nerwen. Too easy to hide beak behind pom pom. Don't trust Mith. Can't put finger on it. Others, equally unsure.

Never turn to evil for the sake of 'good.' Only protect the innocent. Look around despairingly. World lost innocence long ago.

Clay awaits. Sunday. Always clay on Sunday.

Rikae · 03-22-2009, 09:40 AM

Bubbles = Conspiracy Theorist

Nilp = Ursine fabulist

Gwath = forgot the most important thing said about Loms

Fea = Terse

Rikae · 03-22-2009, 09:48 AM

A zatetic querimony:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bratwurst

The fact that Lommy didn't go with Lari exonerates her.

What is this idiolalla? What ""her", O Mac the Macropterous?

Rikae · 03-22-2009, 10:09 AM

Feanor of the Peredhil - Lurky McLurker
Brinniel - Opaque as always.
wilwarin538 - I saw something a while back that raised my eyebrow, but promptly forgot what it was. Good work, most likely kill her in the morning.
Durelin - Wolfie McWolfpants
Nogrod - Rather latrant. Diabolical.
Isabellkya - as xyloid as Al Gore.
Nerwen - irritating jennet.
Rikae - a little bit of kieselguhr makes the medicine go down.
Mith - Weighs exactly the same as a duck.
Kath - I'm going to avoid mentioning her to try to draw everyone's attention away from her for now.

Lari - Seems innocent enough, but I'm not sure why Mac thinks she's a known innocent or something.
Mac - Macropterous
Nienna - I dunno. What are you, Nienna?
Gwathagor - Forgetful. Doesn't like lists, therefore deserves death. Can we give it to him?
Nilpaurion Felagund - I don't trust him farther than I can throw him.

*whew*

Kath · 03-22-2009, 10:33 AM

I'm around so I'm going to ramble for a bit.

Right ...

So, now that we're confident that there was no Ranger save doesn't that seem to negate Rikae's theory about Mith?

Quote:

but, of course, we know the seer wasn't protected, because the ranger protected xemself, as the narration clearly indicates. Which means the seer was not attacked, which can only mean Mith is a bluffing duck who threw Lommy to the... wolves... to make herself look good. Therefore:

Is what Rikae said but we know that the Ranger had nothing to do with anything last Night. Maybe Mith wasn't hinting at being the Seer by being so sure of Lommy but actually knew something about Lommy due to being this phantom's apprentice. Perhaps she and the phantom are able to communicate Nightly. What we don't know though is whether a phantom and phantom's apprentice win is a win for the village or whether they are similar to the Lovers in that they only win for themselves.

Rikae has returned since but doesn't seem to have rethought her plan since learning that the Ranger wasn't involved as Mith still equals duck in her latest list. Just wondering how her reasoning can be so certain given the new information.

Kath · 03-22-2009, 10:38 AM

Bah, double post but I just saw something Brinn said which adds to what I was talking about.

Quote:

Perhaps this person was able to unlock their role when the wolves chose to attack them.

This is a very interesting idea. Given how right Mith was about Lommy yesterDay it would seem pretty likely that the wolves would think she was the Seer as how else would she have been that certain about the information and so they decided to go after her, but because of that her secret apprentice role was unlocked. That actually sounds pretty likely.

Macalaure · 03-22-2009, 09:23 AM

Isn't it funny how so many people defended Gwath on Day1, because he always gets lynched early on, and then so many people wanted him dead just one day later? Even funnier, much of the suspicion stemmed from his Day1 vote. The rest came from his reaction to being poked. As one of the pokers, I have to say that I found his reaction and later behaviour rather innocent. I'm quite puzzled by this and can't help but suspect Gwath's suspecters. Since Gwath was the runner-up to Quacklómien, I could very easily see a conspiracy, maybe only a spontaneous one, of the two other ducks against Gwath. The question is, did they try to get him lynched openly, or more behind the scenes. Keep your eyes open, fellow innocents. They are out there, ever looking for their next victim. Be watchful, for they watch you, too. Just like they wathed Gwatch.

A look at the votes (1-innocent to 5-guilty):

Mith -> Lommy (1)
Her certainty is astounding and it makes you wonder why she is still alive today - without a ranger save. Could be duck-on-duck, but somewhere something is going on behind the scenes that I don't get. I mean, more than we know of. [2]

Kath -> Lari (1)
Lari had also been suspected by Durelin, Lommy, and Gwath. This could be seen as an attempt to put another widely mistrusted person to compete with a possible Lommy-waggon. Her other suspect is Gwath, who would also have served the same purpose nicely. Her choice of top-suspects is somewhat suspicious. The fact that Lommy didn't go with Lari exonerates her. [3]

Lommy -> Gwath (1) [6]
Mac -> Lommy (2) [0]

Wilwa -> Gwath (2)
She goes along the same lines as Kath (same top suspects), which I think makes it unlikely that they both are ducks. Chooses Gwath over Lari, possibly because his waggon had more momentum (and possibly to follow her fellow's vote?). [4]

Rikae -> Mith (1)
Could be seen as an attempt to her vote out of the expectable race between Lommy, Gwath, and Lari. Only, evil-Rikae would never have done that. [2]

Nienna -> Gwath (3)
Also considers Mith, in a way that could be called a slight defense of Lommy. Chooses Gwath, who out of the given options was her top suspect. [4]

Brinn -> Lommy (4)
Putting the Lommy-waggon back on its rails. I think a duck would have refrained from making this vote. [1]

Fea -> Lommy (5)
Same as above, since they cross-voted. [1]

Gwath -> Lommy (6)
The logical choice. [2]

Durelin -> Lommy (7)
Has been after Lommy and Lari and chooses Lommy for obvious reasons. Unsuspicious. [1]

Lari -> Gwath (4)
The last two posts before her vote were counts. Before that, she listed Lommy as guilty and Gwath as unsure. Very suspicious. [5]

Izzy -> Lari (2)
Very consequent. No reason to suspect. [1]

Nogrod -> Lommy (8)
A model of indecisiveness, completely on the fence between Lommy and Gwath. Waits with his vote til it already had been decided. This is typical for him, but that does not mean that he couldn't be a duck trying to get away with it. [3]

Nerwen -> Lommy (9)
Pulls a Nog, but messes up the timing. It takes years of experience to do his trick.

The thing in her favour is that an evil Nerwen would probably have acted more determinedly. [3]

PS:
*ignores the entire tp's apprentice thing*
*enjoys absence of headache*

PPS:
Nilp is cracked. Cracked rhymes with quacked. He must be evil, logically.

03-22-2009, 08:55 AM	#1
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Listiness. Well, it's being late. Must go and vote. Good the phantom satansaloser2005 Nerwen Mithalwen Rikae Durelin Goo Mnemosyne Lariren Shadow Gwathagor Feanor of the Peredhil Brinniel Go Nienna Macalaure wilwarin538 G Nogrod Isabellkya Kath ' (being four letters short of a word) the phantom's apprentice Nilpaurion Felagund With this I have concluded that she must leave the village. ++Kath Good night! __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

03-22-2009, 09:14 AM	#3
Feanor of the Peredhil La Belle Dame sans Merci Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: perpetual uncertainty Posts: 5,517	Someone went out at three in the morning. Did something stupid. I approve. Gone for much of Day. + Feanor of the Peredhil Brinniel Nogrod Lariren Shadow Nienna +- Rikae Durelin Macalaure wilwarin538 - Isabellkya Kath Nilpaurion Felagund Nerwen Mithalwen Gwathagor Don't trust Nilp. Never have. Don't trust Nerwen. Too easy to hide beak behind pom pom. Don't trust Mith. Can't put finger on it. Others, equally unsure. Never turn to evil for the sake of 'good.' Only protect the innocent. Look around despairingly. World lost innocence long ago. Clay awaits. Sunday. Always clay on Sunday. __________________ peace

03-22-2009, 10:09 AM	#6
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	A list! It's only a model. Feanor of the Peredhil - Lurky McLurker Brinniel - Opaque as always. wilwarin538 - I saw something a while back that raised my eyebrow, but promptly forgot what it was. Good work, most likely kill her in the morning. Durelin - Wolfie McWolfpants Nogrod - Rather latrant. Diabolical. Isabellkya - as xyloid as Al Gore. Nerwen - irritating jennet. Rikae - a little bit of kieselguhr makes the medicine go down. Mith - Weighs exactly the same as a duck. Kath - I'm going to avoid mentioning her to try to draw everyone's attention away from her for now. Lari - Seems innocent enough, but I'm not sure why Mac thinks she's a known innocent or something. Mac - Macropterous Nienna - I dunno. What are you, Nienna? Gwathagor - Forgetful. Doesn't like lists, therefore deserves death. Can we give it to him? Nilpaurion Felagund - I don't trust him farther than I can throw him. whew

03-22-2009, 09:40 AM	#4
Rikae Mellifluous Maia Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: A glade open to the stars, deep in Nan Elmoth Posts: 3,489	Bubbles = Conspiracy Theorist Nilp = Ursine fabulist Gwath = forgot the most important thing said about Loms Fea = Terse

03-22-2009, 09:23 AM	#9
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	Isn't it funny how so many people defended Gwath on Day1, because he always gets lynched early on, and then so many people wanted him dead just one day later? Even funnier, much of the suspicion stemmed from his Day1 vote. The rest came from his reaction to being poked. As one of the pokers, I have to say that I found his reaction and later behaviour rather innocent. I'm quite puzzled by this and can't help but suspect Gwath's suspecters. Since Gwath was the runner-up to Quacklómien, I could very easily see a conspiracy, maybe only a spontaneous one, of the two other ducks against Gwath. The question is, did they try to get him lynched openly, or more behind the scenes. Keep your eyes open, fellow innocents. They are out there, ever looking for their next victim. Be watchful, for they watch you, too. Just like they wathed Gwatch. A look at the votes (1-innocent to 5-guilty): Mith -> Lommy (1) Her certainty is astounding and it makes you wonder why she is still alive today - without a ranger save. Could be duck-on-duck, but somewhere something is going on behind the scenes that I don't get. I mean, more than we know of. [2] Kath -> Lari (1) Lari had also been suspected by Durelin, Lommy, and Gwath. This could be seen as an attempt to put another widely mistrusted person to compete with a possible Lommy-waggon. Her other suspect is Gwath, who would also have served the same purpose nicely. Her choice of top-suspects is somewhat suspicious. The fact that Lommy didn't go with Lari exonerates her. [3] Lommy -> Gwath (1) [6] Mac -> Lommy (2) [0] Wilwa -> Gwath (2) She goes along the same lines as Kath (same top suspects), which I think makes it unlikely that they both are ducks. Chooses Gwath over Lari, possibly because his waggon had more momentum (and possibly to follow her fellow's vote?). [4] Rikae -> Mith (1) Could be seen as an attempt to her vote out of the expectable race between Lommy, Gwath, and Lari. Only, evil-Rikae would never have done that. [2] Nienna -> Gwath (3) Also considers Mith, in a way that could be called a slight defense of Lommy. Chooses Gwath, who out of the given options was her top suspect. [4] Brinn -> Lommy (4) Putting the Lommy-waggon back on its rails. I think a duck would have refrained from making this vote. [1] Fea -> Lommy (5) Same as above, since they cross-voted. [1] Gwath -> Lommy (6) The logical choice. [2] Durelin -> Lommy (7) Has been after Lommy and Lari and chooses Lommy for obvious reasons. Unsuspicious. [1] Lari -> Gwath (4) The last two posts before her vote were counts. Before that, she listed Lommy as guilty and Gwath as unsure. Very suspicious. [5] Izzy -> Lari (2) Very consequent. No reason to suspect. [1] Nogrod -> Lommy (8) A model of indecisiveness, completely on the fence between Lommy and Gwath. Waits with his vote til it already had been decided. This is typical for him, but that does not mean that he couldn't be a duck trying to get away with it. [3] Nerwen -> Lommy (9) Pulls a Nog, but messes up the timing. It takes years of experience to do his trick. The thing in her favour is that an evil Nerwen would probably have acted more determinedly. [3] PS: ignores the entire tp's apprentice thing enjoys absence of headache PPS: Nilp is cracked. Cracked rhymes with quacked. He must be evil, logically.