A "Complete Silmarillion" in Spanish

[Findegil]

Sorry Gondowe my answere was not really that specific. If you want the actual structer of TRANSLATION FROM THE ELVISH / volume 1: THE ELDER DAYS you will find in the thread given above in posting #80 (Page2).

The proposals for the other volumes ar not that clear. But they should sume up to 3 according losely to the 3 volumes Bilbo gave Frodo. I proposed 1 volume dealing with Númenor and Middle-Earth in the second and third Age and 1 volume with Essay.
All the Texts you mentioned would be included in one or the other.

Did I get you right that you would like to produce a Silmarillion + editions of the 'Great Tales'? That project looks even more ambious then ours since it will include much reducting from the 'Great Tales' with the additional issue to aviod to much repeating (but translation might help in this).

The reduction of Húrin in Brethil will be a hard task. The intra Brethilien politics are heavily interwoven with Húrins actions. I am not that sure that you must do that at all. Okay otherwise the tale is a bit out of balance with the rest of Húrins Wanderings. But not so much with what Tolkien might envisaged for his Silmarillion realised only for The Darkening of Valinor with all its sub-chaptern.

About your new question were we are rigth now, please look at this thread** General Comments on the Project & Sign Up Thread **. In posting #100 I gave an overview that still not so much outdated. I only would add that we have settle the discussion about Andróg as a member of Húrins band and have finished the first part of the Narn concerning the changes introduce by CoH.

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Findegil

[gondowe]

Originally Posted by Findegil

Did I get you right that you would like to produce a Silmarillion + editions of the 'Great Tales'? That project looks even more ambious then ours since it will include much reducting from the 'Great Tales' with the additional issue to aviod to much repeating (but translation might help in this).

The reduction of Húrin in Brethil will be a hard task. The intra Brethilien politics are heavily interwoven with Húrins actions. I am not that sure that you must do that at all. Okay otherwise the tale is a bit out of balance with the rest of Húrins Wanderings. But not so much with what Tolkien might envisaged for his Silmarillion realised only for The Darkening of Valinor with all its sub-chaptern.


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Findegil

Well my initial idea was to retain the chapters of Túrin and Tour as it were in The Published Sil + WoH edited the end with the end of TT. And CoH in a book and FoG in other. It was so till you animate me to retake the narn Húrin so i am working in my job (when i can, of course, a Hospital) as I said above. I only take my previous WoH and past as an appendix at the end of CoH (with the central chapters enlarged with the lay).
In the chapter of "Silmarillion" i take the other title proposed by Tolkien "Of the fate of Húrin and Morwen" and as my law "not to complicate", I resume the whole passage of Hurin in Brethil with the annal 501 from WotJ little edited, and I don't "invent" nothing.

The enlarged chapter of Beren is "overenlarged", and added in the book with the other two tales, and the original chapter of Sil reenters in the Book.

I think it was the project of Tolkien to left a Silmarillion and the three (or four) tales apart.
And I know there are people that want to read the whole history, whithout Great Tales, people, of course, not like us, but for example my cousin can read the whole silmarillion and then if it likes much, could read the Tales enlarged, or vice versa. She red FoG and likes too much.

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[Findegil]

I think it was the project of Tolkien to left a Silmarillion and the three (or four) tales apart.

Yes, I agree to this and I did not critisies your approach. I rather mentioned the issues that brought as to another way. Your finished results have some edvantages that our approach has lost:
- the single entitys will be better balanced.
- for the entitys a fign history of tradition is thinkable
- you follow probably Tolkiens original plan (at least much better then we do)
- the entitys are smaller (which makes publishers happy as I learned recently from Brandon Lee's Blog about the split of 'A Memory of Light'. But this last point is irrelevant since publication is prohibited by copyright anyway.)

I have to appolgies for the question anyway. Had I re-read or remembered your earlier postings, the answer was clear more or less allready.

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Findegil

[gondowe]

Hi Findegil, I've finished in rework the Narn Húrin, and I was trying to send you my two pdf books by the e-mail in your web but I have problems of delivering message. How can I send you them?
Meanwhile I retried.

Another question, the titles in the narn Beren from The coming to Doriath till The ques of the silmaril, are invented? I don't remember a source.

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[Findegil]

For message try ralf.volles@gmx.de. But probably it will not help me much, since I don't speak any spanish. But if you don't mind I would collcect it and give it to other members if they shoe interest.

The chapterheadings in the Lay of Leithian are all original. We did not invent any haeding in our chapterstructure beside the head line of part one of TftE 'The Elderdays' and the skipt chapter 'Of Túrin the Hapless 2'.

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Findegil

[gondowe]

Originally Posted by Findegil

The chapterheadings in the Lay of Leithian are all original.

Ok, but can you tell me where they are?, because I was looking for them and I don't find anything in the texts.

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[Findegil]

We took them out of the listing in the content page of the book if they will be found nowhere else. Sorry I have the book not at hand. I will look it up at the evening. I am not quiet sure if they are in the text itself.

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Findegil