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Old 04-14-2009, 11:54 PM   #1
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Well, right off the bat I'm thinking Gwath and Sally look fishy from their votes yesterDay.
As well as you Izzy and Brinn, right?

Well. That was one of the weirdest bandwagons ever.

I mean it's not only that Kuru's confident lead in the votes was unanimously brought even with four consecutive votes to Nienna. But also, it was not done by Nilp, Form, Fea etc. who have a long history with Kuru and who would have particularly wished to see him alive if there was no major reason to lynch him. Let it be added that even if people oftentimes feel insecure with their voting - especially when they think they have only bad choices to choose from - there's an air of apology-making in the last votes that does raise an eyebrow.

All this look fishy indeed. If one could just point one's finger into it.


On another topic. What was this yesterDay Nilp and Firefoot? What were you thinking in here?
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Agan 216 a seer hint?
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It strikes me as really interesting that Agan would want to throw a bonus vote out there already - it seems like a rather unfounded move, given the amount of material we have to go on. Hmmm... unless he's the seer... Kuru would be a fairly logical choice as a first night dream, he's well known enough. And that would explain why Agan came out swinging at him.
Well, anyway it looks like the baddies took the hint. The remaining question is, whether the baddies were under pressure to kill her because Kuru is one of them or was it just a clean-up operation to be sure?


EDIT: X'd with Brinn...
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Old 04-15-2009, 12:16 AM   #2
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Here is my current little rundown before I hit the sack for the night.

Alonariel – No idea, has not appeared

Brinniel – Faintly suspicious

Fea – Always suspicious

Firefoot – Definitely suspicious

Form – ehhh…not too suspicious at this moment

Green – ehhh…also not too suspicious at this moment

Gwath – Definitely suspicious

Izzy – Really not sure

Kent – Suspicious

Lari – AWOL

Nilp – errr…

Nogrod – Faintly suspicious...to my reading seems to have been one of the initial ones to mention Nienna...

Sally – Really not sure

Shasta – Really not sure

Switching it up a little bit, I’m going to analyze some of the ones I’m really not sure about.

Izzy

#187 appears

#218 – Says Agan is giving Grima too much credit – points out that Grima can only make a gifted fall ill once
Says the baddies may be smoother because they are always in touch
Says we should worry too much about the extra votes

#259 – Says she doesn’t understand why Agan and I are appearing so shifty to everyone else
Says Nog looks like himself
Says she is tempted to vote Nienna

#267 – Votes Nienna

I agree with a number of the things she says. She seems quite sensible and reasonable…which in a way I find troubling. Then she voted for Nienna.

Sally

#233 – appears, whips us all into shape

#250 – Substantive comment is that there wasn’t much to do on Day One
Says she will be watching who hordes votes
Doesn’t find Grima hunting useful
Says that some are more off the wall when they are wolves
Comments on how little posting took place on Day One

#258 – Says she has no idea who to vote for yet

#262 – Wants to review Nienna

#266 – Votes Nienna

Some useful comments but then ends up voting Nienna.

Shasta

#205 – appears, says he is processing events

Disappears and doesn’t return.

It may be mistaken but my initial instinct is that wolves would post more.

I don't think all of these are werewolves (obviously because they are not on my "Suspicious" list) but I definitely think at least one might be.

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No offense met Kuru, but I don't care if you only played every 100 years, if you are a baddie would vote you out as soon as possible, Day 1 or not, aren't in werewolf that much or not, shouldn't be a factor.
An admirable sentiment, one I, in fact, completely agree with.
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Old 04-15-2009, 04:36 AM   #3
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Well, this certainly was an interesting kill. Got me thinking in a certain direction . . . Narrows down my suspicions somewhat.

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On another topic. What was this yesterDay Nilp and Firefoot? What were you thinking in here?
I can't speak for Firefoot, natürlich, but as for me I distrust any Seer hints made at certain (inopportune) times, and thus I make it an effort to expose such suspicious things. On any other DAY, perhaps, I would have kept such things to myself. But if you think doing such things make certain members of this group suspicious, I can't help you there.

But I hardly think you guilty, despite attacking half the village. I don't think you'd be that pointblank had you a hidden life. Mwahaha.
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Old 04-15-2009, 07:14 AM   #4
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On another topic. What was this yesterDay Nilp and Firefoot? What were you thinking in here? Well, anyway it looks like the baddies took the hint. The remaining question is, whether the baddies were under pressure to kill her because Kuru is one of them or was it just a clean-up operation to be sure?
Well, obviously Agan was not the seer. If Kuru is not a wolf, the wolves would have known this, so this wouldn't be the reason that they killed her, as she would have just been an ordo (or a non-seer gifted). If Kuru was a wolf, though, and Agan was the seer, this wouldn't really make sense either since then we'd all know Kuru was a wolf because we'd know Agan was the seer. Unless they just wanted to limit the chance that she'd dream of another wolf... so that begs the question, even though Agan wasn't the seer (say she had a really lucky guess and the wolves thought she was), is Kuru a wolf anyway?

Or were the wolves not even thinking about the seer and just decided that Agan was too much of a liability?

And as for what I was thinking... a potential seer lead seemed like a really good Day 1 reason to vote Kuru. And if Agan actually had been the seer, I think the wolves would have guessed it... that's a little bit too lucky, to just pick one person basically off the bat, and then be so confident as to put two votes on him, and get it right.

Otherwise my vote would have been more or less random...

And just so you all know, I probably won't be around much toDay. Wednesdays are busy busy busy.
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Old 04-15-2009, 07:46 AM   #5
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Has a last minute bandwagon ever worked? Ever!? I'm not saying I was right and y'all messed it up after I went to bed, given I obviously voted somebody who wasn't evil, but really? Nienna? You thought she looked guilty?
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Old 04-15-2009, 07:48 AM   #6
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Consequently, everybody who voted for Nienna looks squeaky clean to me, given that wolves aren't foolish enough to draw attention to themselves so soon. They never are. It's always misguided ordos that bandwagon last minute on a first day.
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Old 04-15-2009, 07:50 AM   #7
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And because almost everybody who's playing knows perfectly well that last minute bandwagons on Day One are almost always (or just always) ineffective, that puts a new slant on the voters: everybody's experienced in this game, minus Alonariel (who's missing) and Kent (who's doing quite well regardless), so everybody should know better.
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(if it's not a given, I'm posting in fragments so that the internet actually lets me post; long stuff isn't an option)

Consequently, since everybody ought to know better, I'm torn between thinking everybody who voted Nienna (except Nog, for his double-vote, first off) is either basically innocent, or is incredibly brazen.
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Except- logic dictates that brazenness typically doesn't happen because it's a lot of effort to keep up, and most people want to take the easy way out.

The question becomes: is it easier to sit back and let confused villagers mess things up on their own, or is it easier to make it look like they did?
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