WW LX - Mortal Men, doomed to die

[Eönwë]

Good...erm... evening... to you all.

I don't really like trusting seer reveals too often, so I don't really like the way the village immediately believes him. He could just be a manipulative wolf with a well-though-out case. Werewolf is after all a manipulative game so it's best to be wary.

Nevertheless, I've thought before that something seems a little wrong with Legate this game, and I guess this is our chance to test it (I doubt we could lynch anyone else by now anyway). At least then we will know the identity of at least one wolf (Legate or Nogrod).

And even if Nogrod is a wolf, and the real seer hasn't spoken up yet (and why should they, they're in no danger) then at least the true identity of the seer will be kept hidden and they can continue finding out roles.

However, I am inclined to believe Nogrod, so:

++Legate

edit: x-ed with Nerwen #283 et après- something strange happened to my computer

[satansaloser2005]

Hey, I'm sorry to slack but this day (day, not Day, mind you) turned really sour so I'm not really in the mood to analyze a bunch of stuff. Assuming I'm alive toMorrow and that I'm able to talk more I will give you some hopefully lovely opinions on things, but for now I just need to relax. Sorry again.

My vote is obvious though:


++Legate


You were clever, but not quite clever enough for the seer. Have a nice death.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Wilwa

I think either Sally, Rune or Eonwe would be good choices for a dream toNight, since they seem to have gotten the most attention over the last few Days.

I'll consider your suggestion...

Originally Posted by Rune

If Nogrod really is the seer, then we have both him and Legate with special roles in Lommy's game. . .

You bet that occured to me too at the moment Lommy told me Legate's role... So following that logic you'd be quite right with Brinn and maybe Sally; but then we should also consider you Rune!

Originally Posted by Nilp

Will we have a DAY where little is done save speculate on Nogrod and Legate, and afterwards voting for Legate? Will this not be an aid to those three others who wish to hide in the shadows? Will we waste a DAY given to us by the One in such manner?

Exactly. More could have been done toDay... and more still can be done. Just come forwards people and share your ideas. ToMorrow you need to lynch someone so why not get into it already?

I think I may have found something interesting from Nilp's listings... Just a minute and I'll go back and check.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Legate's list on Day1

Nienna - despite the first sort of exchange with Nog, I am inclined now to see her behavior as genuine, and not as a particular intention to fly under the radar. Thus, hope to see her posting more in the future: like I said, this far, the picture seems genuine.

Originally Posted by Legate's list on Day2 (omitted from Nilp's version)

Nienna - is basically not around. Now, I would not like to start about that, but I think people who are silent should try not to be that silent anymore, because otherwise nobody is able to read anything about them.

But then after voting three minutes before the DL he thinks it fir to post this at the .00 hours:

Now, one more thing to say - I feel quite somewhat better about Nienna right now, basically because she started to post. People like Shasta though make me slightly uncomfortable

So why did he feel the need to say that as he had never actually said he suspects her or feels bad about her? Just feel-good factor stuff towards Nienna or what? It's hard to believe he'd make that kind of eyebrow-raising comment on his mate at that kind of situation... (eyebrow-raising in a sense that as he'd be found out pretty soon everyone would notice that little bit) Or then again? *drives me crazy*

So yeah, it was interesting but sadly very inconclusive.

[Nogrod]

Oh my. The time is running.

Now where is everyone? *A sudden feeling of dejá-vu*

[Eönwë]

Where is everyone! only 10 minutes to DL!

By the way Noggie, I believe it's "déjà vu"

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

By the way Nggie, I believe it's "déjà vu"

You maybe right. Something looked wrong there...

Well, even if no one's around (except Eönwë), good night and good luck!

It was fun as long as it lasted.

I'll be holding my thumb to you from the tomb!

Have fun!

[Thinlómien]

Stop posting. Legate was lynched and the narration is coming in five minutes...

[Thinlómien]

Captain Nogrod had everybody's undivided attention when he told about the visions he had received in his sleep. ”Queen Nerwen – good, King Legate – no good,” he explained. ”Nogrod no good,” Legate grumbled, but no one quite believed his claims of innocence and insistences that Nogrod must be lying.

So, when the night drew closer, the guests were one-minded about who should go. Even Legate's wife, Queen Lhuna was happy to advocate the death of her husband. ”So what's the technical term for killing your own husband again? ” she asked in a sweet voice. ”Regicide,” said Nerwen. ”Disgusting,” said Legate.

”So, how shall we kill him?” asked Eönwë.
”I think we should go for the democratic model – everybody can take a dagger and stab the murderer,” said Rune.
”Let's just get it done,” sighed Sally.

Some of the guests drew daggers of their own, and a few went to the kitchen to find heavy kitchen knives.

Legate looked at the dozen people surrounding him, a small sea of short blades glimmering in the light of the setting sun. A small sea of pitifully short blades. He laughed. ”Am I to die like this?” He shook his head. ”Stabbed by twelve people, some of them wielding kitchen knives?” He laughed again. ”I always had my enemies, but I expected to die on the battlefield with a sword in my hand... how naive of me, I see that now.” With a smooth move, he drew a sword that had been cleverly hidden in his clothes. The blade was long, elegant and slightly curved... several people were gasping for air when they recognised it as one of the swords that had been left by the table with Lady Lómiel's body.

”You will not kill me like that!” Legate said. ”Truly, I am not any random petty king whom you can displace as you will, I am the greatest king and the most powerful warrior in all of the southern lands and I will have eternal glory! Is there anyone who dares to fight me in a duel? Or are you all cowards?”

There were angry murmurs, and before anyone else could react, Captain Nogrod stood up. He drew his cutlass and eyed King Legate viciously. ”Aye, I will fight you and kill you and cut that pitiful babbling about your own excellence!”

Reluctantly, others made way and the two paced around, swinging their blades and keeping close eye contact. Then Legate struck. The blow was easily parried by Nogrod. Then Nogrod struck and Legate parried. Striking, parrying, striking, parrying, nothing seemed to happen. Until Legate hit Nogrod's blade so hard that the pirate captain dropped it. With a malicious grin, the Haradian aimed a vicious blow at the direction of his unprotected enemy.

”Noooooooo!” cried the warlord Groin. ”Let me die instead!” And with a terrible speed, he dashed between the two fighters and Legate's blade hit him instead Nogrod, cutting deep into his stomach. Meanwhile, Nogrod used the distraction to his advance, picked his cutlass and attacked Legate again. Too late the rebelling king realised his sword was stuck on Groin and he had nothing to lift in between himself and Nogrod's cutlass. He fell with the strength of Nogrod's blow and lay on the floor, a pool of blood forming around him.

”There... will be... revenge,” he managed to say before drawing his last breath.

To their horror, the others saw his body vanish into thin air as if it had never been: only a pile of clothes remained. There was terrible cry piercing the air and a cold wind in the hall.

They had got rid of one enemy, but no one felt like cheering.

”I say we go to sleep,” Nerwen said after a while.
”Yeah, good idea,” Nienna agreed.
”What about poor Groin?” Brinniel asked.
”He seems pretty dead,” Lhuna said. ”Let's have the housekeeper take care of him and that... pile of rugs.”

~*~

Dead
Lommy (mod) - Lady Lómiel Starbrow, the hostess – killed on Night1
Isabellkya (ordo) - lynched on Day1
Kath (ordo) – killed on Night2
Eomer of the Rohirrim (ordo) - lynched on Day2
Kent2010 (ordo) - Black Númenórean scam artist - killed on Night3
Legate of Amon Lanc (ringwraith) - rebelling Haradian King - lynched on Day3
Groin Redbeard (ordo) - Variag Warlord of Khand - modfired on Day3

Alive
Nienna - pirate
Nogrod - Corsair Captain "The Cat O' Nine tails of Ethir Anduin"
Shastanis Althreduin - King of the Sea
wilwarin538 - sorceress
Nerwen - Queen of the Sea
Nilpaurion Felagund - fussy courtier
Rune Son of Bjarne - Tivo the Sorceror
Lhunardawen - rebelling Haradian Queen
satansaloser2005
Eönwë
Brinniel

It's Night4 now. Ringwraiths, you may plot. RW's and gifteds, you may send me your picks.

[Nogrod]

Okay, I said quite a lot about people in my post #252 (on page seven).

Also from toDay I would say that those who were keenest to lynch Legate or to mention how much they trust me are probably the ones you should watch out for the most.

There might have been a sort of incubation period in the beginning of the Day where the wolves looked how the minds of people would develop before taking any real stance *coughSallycough*, but they might have already made a deal during the Night who would rush to back me so that person would look really good later if there was actual skirmishing about the issue - as the truth would be revealed soon enough whichever way toDay's voting would go.

Looked at from that angle...

Sally yes, oddly fades the situation...

Rune looks grumpy and indeed innocentish (or then he is just clecverly waiting for how people will react first before committing himself to either view).

Wilwa is interesting as well:

First, I can't believe how wrong I was about Eomer, I feel so foolish for pursuing him so strongly and then being so terribly wrong.

Secondly, I trust Nogrod. That may seem odd considering that yesterDay I was unsure of him, and very sure of Legate. But I was also very sure of Eomer and was wrong, so....yeah. I'm gonna probably vote Legate.

Looks a bit deliberate to mee if you ask.

Later she still added this (adding then approval for Nienna's idea that this will be safe anyway):

Originally Posted by Wilwa

It seems everyone is trusting Nogrod, which is good.

Nienna sounds at least reasonable:

I think the village would be foolish not to trust Nogrod on this one. If he is not the seer and we kill off an innocent Legate then at least we will know that Nogrod is a wolf and can kill him the next day.

Which sure is no mark of innocence. But it looks pretty good.

Nilp calls us to action and kind of takes the situation for granted. Looks pretty good indeed. But he could pull that.

But Lhuna really raises my eyebrows:

Thanks for that, Nogrod. I trusted in your innocence Day 1, and I'm glad my trust had not been in vain.

A bit overdone?

Brinn looks like pretty safe and cosiderate:

I'm inclined to trust Nogrod, though I still don't really get why he revealed when he did. Was he really that concerned he'd be a potential Night kill? I couldn't see that. Anyway, we'll know the truth soon enough. And if this is wolf-on-wolf, we'll figure it out if Noggie doesn't die or get attacked in the next few Nights.

Which would be perfect for a wolf as well.

Eönwë indeed looks pretty good with all his reservations!


The reason for this little excercise? The wolves know I'm right and they feel some pressure to be on the goiod side of people toMorrow so they might overexaggerate their enthusiasm. But an ordo should be actually a bit suspicious about things going this smoothly (I would be at least).


Try to cross-examine these with fex. how Eomer suspicions were born, kept up and deepened yesterDay and look if you see the same people in similar kind of roles.

And check yesterDay's voting, especislly the last suspicions & votes (and discrepancies within them) - and add them to these two issues.

Something could be found from there.