WW LXI: Grimm Tales

[Aganzir]

his motto being “always be prepared”

Ooh Eomer I knew we were destined to cooperate ever since I saw your occupation, and now this! *strokes her lions gently*

Anyway hello bunnies. Last night I had a dream I missed the whole game because I got stranded on a desert island for two months and when I was finally rescued, my main worry was that I had been modfired. It's funny how WW creeps into my dreams even before the game has started.

Nerwen is a baddie because she started her first post with the word terrible and she always does that as a wolf!

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Will Lommy and Aganzir try to lynch each other?(2-1)

No they don't. At least on the first few days. My guess is that they will try to keep a nice distance so no one notices they're actually fell- I mean because they don't enjoy their excessive quarrelling very much. At least Aganzir doesn't.
Tee-hee now I'll get rich!

Originally Posted by Boro

Aganzir - has known to dress up as uncivilized cavalry officers, she has to be the robber bridegroom

Shh you're not supposed to say that aloud!

If I don't have any good suspects by the end of the day, I will vote for either Greenie, Shasta or Lari for killing me on night 1 the last time I played. I'm probably not voting for Gaurie or Inzy today because this is their first game.

Hmm as for the roles...

I don't like Hansel & Gretel because they make the game too complicated for my poor little brain. I have also always hated that fairytale.

If the Fair Maiden uses all of her five guesses on day 3, the odds that she gets it right are the best. If there are no ranger saves, modfire, lover deaths or whatever, there should be 16 people alive then which means she has almost a 1/3 chance of getting Rumplie.

Prince Charming should probably be careful when looking for his princess in case also the Old Witch tries to drop Cinderella-hints in order to get him killed.

*off to eat the lovely blueberry ice cream she just made*

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Agan

*strokes her lions gently*

Anyway hello bunnies.

Dunno why the combination of stroking lions and calling us bunnies makes me feel like... a bunny threatened by a lion?

In any case I'm here now and will probably be more or less around for some hours at least. I don't, surprisingly, have much to say right now, but if someone else is around I'd be in for a nice little (green) chat.


EDIT: Oooh how cool, this was my 444th post. I like even numbers.

[the phantom]

It's easy to figure out who is bad. Who hasn't been reading lately? Only evil people don't like reading.

Gwath is always hanging about my shop, or Nienna's, curse her! You may argue that he has nothing better to do seeing as he is a drunk without a job. But he could be spending his time robbing or talking, but he chooses to read now and again. And that puts him in my good book.

Not that I have an actual "good book". They're all good. Not all books, I don't mean... I mean all my books are good. I don't keep the bad ones. You have to bury the bad ones and cover them with a layer of ashes from a good book. It's sad. Whenever I find a bad book a good one has to die in order to cancel it out. Why don't people just stop writing bad books?!

Gaurcrist reads sometimes. Likes some of my weapons books very much, and has never tried to steal them from me, unlike some of you! You think offering me filthy round pieces of metal is a fair trade? Hmph! Keep your gold. I have books on how to find gold, make gold, and shape gold. Much better.

And really, what is wrong with Lari? She votes for me to die, and her reason is- she figures I won't die! I'm not sure where to begin breaking down that bit of nonsense.

But I think the baddies will reveal themselves. The witch's cackle will give her away, the big bad wolf will have terrible dining manners, and Rumplesnit... Rumbleskil... um, Rummy no doubt disguised himself as a very tall villager since this is his one chance to feel tall. So let's eat and lynch the one who gets the messiest, then stand up from the table and lynch the tallest, and then tell a joke and lynch the cackler.

Easy, easy, easy.

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Rumplesnit... Rumbleskil... um, Rummy

Rumpelstiltskin, phantom. A boy of your age should know more about spelling. I would definitely have thought I taught you a bit better than that... *mutters something about students not being as precise as they used to be*

[wilwarin538]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

I didn't even have time to explain to the Fair Butterfly the difference between a bookbinder and a bookmaker

Oops.....sorry!!!

Only evil people don't like reading.

That's what she said.


hehe, had to do that atleast once....

[Boromir88]

Whatever sounds good to you, Good Sir. You are the Master Shrubberer, after all.~Zil

I have nominated Nienna's suggestion...Zil (see the quote above)

And I vehemently oppose Agan's (Inzy) suggestion, because it is too similar to Izzy, and I will get confused.

But of course my dear Boro... though I must warn you that I don't promise that they are the secrets you seek.~Nienna

What secrets do you think I am after? I guess that is for our resident fortune teller to answer.

But, wasn't there some wicked witch in some long ago tale that said "my dear?" It is of course a different tale, but I would assume that the Wicked Witch of the West and the Old Witch belong to the same guild of Evil witches.

phantom, it is your first post and you are already dropping hints, all over the place, and are clearly up to something? Lucky for you that I have no power against you, and of course what you have already hinted at I have made note of and will let you be.

Edit: crossed with the last two, and the phrase from the wicked witch is "my pretty," not "my dear." So disregard that last ridiculous suspicion.

[McCaber]

Well, I'm back from my morning out, and I see that not a lot has happened.

Originally Posted by the phantom

I don't keep the bad ones. You have to bury the bad ones and cover them with a layer of ashes from a good book. It's sad. Whenever I find a bad book a good one has to die in order to cancel it out. Why don't people just stop writing bad books?!

I shudder to think of the ruin Twilight has wreaked on your library. If I had any books to spare I'd sell one to you to recoup your losses.

Boro: It's ok, I think just about every witch has used a phrase like "my dear" or perhaps "poppets" to lure the children inside. I mean, not that I would know anything about any witches or anything like that, but still, I think it's a fun little point.

Zil: throwing a few words out there about certain villagers here and there works for some people. I can't fault him for that. It is how I tend to operate, after all. And he has an awesome sig, so I'll let him be for now.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Greenie

Dunno why the combination of stroking lions and calling us bunnies makes me feel like... a bunny threatened by a lion?

Don't worry - my lions are very gentle animals compared to, for instance, the Bunny of Caerbannog.

Originally Posted by Boro

And I vehemently oppose Agan's (Inzy) suggestion, because it is too similar to Izzy, and I will get confused.

What about Ladu then?

Originally Posted by Ladu

Why immediately throw to the wolves (so to speak) anyone who may not be able post often right away? Seems rather unnecessary.

Because it's easy for quiet people to go unnoticed while the loudmouths tear each other apart, and if those quiet ones are guilty... well too bad. And people often prefer to save the most substantial players till later.

Originally Posted by Ladu

I do like "Rumplie" as a nick for the freakish dwarf-creature.

Don't thank me, I think it was wilwa who coined it.

I'm here for now.

[McCaber]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Because it's easy for quiet people to go unnoticed while the loudmouths tear each other apart, and if those quiet ones are guilty... well too bad. And people often prefer to save the most substantial players till later.

Sad but true. You get people who post all over like Lommy and Boro who say quite a bit, and then people like me who often don't have much to say.

It's easier to tell a loud wolf in the lategame because inconsistencies are easier to catch when there's a lot of posts.

And in the past I've been an effective villain by staying rather quiet, so I know from personal experience to get the silent ones first.

[Boromir88]

Ok, first major serious question I want answered...

Is it Rumple-stilt-skin, or would you say Rumples-tilts-kin?

McCaber, I promise not to accuse you of beeing "too right" about the baddies, where the only explanation is you are one. Here's a toast to the bitter memories, let them lay still.

Edit: crossed with Lommy

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Boro

Thanks a lot Lommy, for stealing my thunder, I can't even get the 2nd!

That's what you get for being such a sluggish writer.

Originally Posted by Lari

Because he's the phantom and I know won't (hopefully) get lynched on Day 1 for my little insignificant vote.

What's the point in voting someone in order not to get them lynched? Would not refraining from voting be wiser?

Originally Posted by Boro

Lommy - I don't like minstrels, but as long as you are not Robin's minstrels I promise I won't eat you if winter unexpectantly comes upon us

Oh brave sir Boro ran away...

Originally Posted by Boro

the phantom - ugly stepsister anyone? That would be a cruel joke.

*dies laughing*

Originally Posted by Aganzir

I'm probably not voting for Gaurie or Inzy today because this is their first game.

Well yes even though I advocated the objectivity policy I'm going to do that too... but toMorrow they will not receive any such kindness from me and also, I will not refrain from suspecting or accusing them toDay.

Originally Posted by Zirry

Because it's easy for quiet people to go unnoticed while the loudmouths tear each other apart, and if those quiet ones are guilty... well too bad. And people often prefer to save the most substantial players till later.

And also because if I threten to vote people who are silent people may talk more and thus provide more evidence.


edit: xed with the macabre guy

[Mithalwen]

I am here but I haven't got much to say yet - other than it is just as well that double lynches aren't allowed. With potentially 2 pairs of lovers there is a risk of a lot of collateral damage if we get it wrong ... and we could end up with 5 baddies, let alone all these guess and die characters... All of which I am still getting to grips with (I feel a chart coming on... or maybe a herbal infusion will cleart the mind). With all these special roles a lot of people will have private agendas - so the decision may be not IF people are behaving oddly but why... and with that in mind I shall take a good look at what you have been up to...

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Lommy

Originally Posted by Zirry
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zilly

Is it just me or are these Zirries and Zillies a tad confusing? (And who's Zirry anyway? Aganzir?)


EDIT: x-ed with Inzy/Ladu/Zilly/Dun/whatever

[Thinlómien]

Nerwen - funny and makes sense-ish, no reason to be at her throat yet
Eomer - his normal self ie bears watching
Lommy - to quote one of the greatest minstrels of our times, J.R.R. Tolkien: "immortal maiden Elven-wise"... except sadly not immortal!
Aganzir - is for once refraining from attacking me + makes good points = good
Sally - her instant has been an hour - suspicious
McCaber - making points and suspecting people, I quite like it
Izzy - nothing
Mira - nothing
Gaurcrist - nothing
Shasta - nothing
Gwath - nothing
Boro88 - amusing... but I'm really going to rip something or someone to pieces if he and phantom start a sort of clandestine co-operation again!
Kath - her normal self
Inziladun - getting hang of the game, actually playing, I like it
Fea - nothing
Nienna - making vague hints
Greenie - amusing but not much substance yet
Lari - fishy exactly in the way that attracts my Day1 votes magnetically (and usually is not proof of guilt.... *sigh*)
Mith - just made a fair point
the phantom - lack of substance and volume


edit: xed with Zil, Green and Boro

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Inzil

the phantom- a bit unbalanced and unpredictable?

Exactly! First try. I'm impressed.

Originally Posted by Lommy

*dies laughing*

So long as you aren't cackling.

And Boro- I made a mistake. Three mistakes actually! Two of them seem to be related, but they're not. Who says coincidences don't exist? I don't say that. But then I do say that I haven't started trying yet. I'm wondering right now what I'm actually supposed to do besides act unbalanced and unpredictable, and wondering what everyone else is supposed to do. How many people are on their own team this game? Between the Baddies and Lovers there aren't really any, um, villagers.

So, is this really what we have? Baddies- want to kill everyone. Lovers- want to kill everyone. Gifteds- want to.... um.... kill Baddies? But then if the Lovers win, don't only they win, and the Goodies don't? So why are the Gifteds trying to save everyone else, since no one else is on their team?

And I still haven't figured out what Prince Philip has to do with me. He shares my name, but why? Is it a sign?

I must consult my books. Don't bother me.

edit: x-post with several, including another ++tp! Because Lari was onto something, I suppose.

[Inziladun]

What about Ladu then?[/QUOTE]

Like I said, whatever everyone agrees on.

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Because it's easy for quiet people to go unnoticed while the loudmouths tear each other apart, and if those quiet ones are guilty... well too bad. And people often prefer to save the most substantial players till later.

Makes sense. Tricky devils.

[Mirandir]

#18
Begins game by calling everyone "bunnies." Last I checked, wolves eat rabbits.

Speculates on the importance of some of the roles.

#28
Plays with nicknames and banters.

#47
Likes McC, Laddie, Mith, and Lommy.
Dislikes Boro and phantom.
Speculates about the importance of the Lovers.

#80
Eeew beer.
Finds Lommy and Boro's first posts odd, but dismisses it as Day 1.
Disapproves of Shasta's ordo reveal on grounds that it makes it easier for BBW to find LRC.

#87
Responds to wilwa's comment about LRC

#99
Informs Kath and she and Lommy fight a lot.
Responds to Kath's question of why she is leaving Boro and phantom alone despite not liking them.

#131
Gets annoyed that people want to lynch Boro.
Questions if Gwath and Fea's suspcions about Boro trying to set Mira up are serious.
Says would rather kill phantom than Boro but won't vote for either today.
Doesn't know who to vote for yet.

#148
Responds to a lot of things Lommy said.
Doesn't like the Boro votes because they lack real reasoning.
Finds Lommy's response to Boro setting Mira up suspicious and cobbler-esque.
Is not "overly fond" of Greenie as she is "aggressive and grasping at straws at the same time" but also admits that tends to be suspicious because of previous games.

#162
Responds to a lot of things Boro said.

Personally I tend to be a very honest wolf - just because people don't think a wolf would do this or that. And therefore I have a hard time thinking a wolf could not be brutally honest.

Speculates on Hansel and Gretel.

#171
Responds to Lommy about Mith's suspicion of Shasta.
Says would vote for Shasta, but prefers Greenie.

#187
Votes Shasta over Boro or Nienna because of LRC factor.

#189
Vote count

#244
Speculates at to why Lommy was killed. Didn't see her as a threat.
Thinks the wolves would want to dispose of as many gifteds as possible early on because there are so many of them.

#247

How come so many people seem to be under the impression the wolves must attack Reddie in order to convert her? Correct a poor non-native speaker if she's wrong but to me that "along with the baddies kill choice" looks pretty much like they send two names every night.

A wolf would certainly know the specifics of exactly what must be done to turn LRC.

#263
Is confused by Mith.

#314
Makes massive list.
Guilty: Gwath, Izzy, Greenie, Lari, sally, Fea, Mira

Gwath and Izzy are both gifted so she could have been hiding her real suspicions in with a mate or two or hers.

Innocent: Inziladun, Eomer, Kath
Neither: Mith, Cab, Gaurcrist, Nerwen, Shasta, Boro, phantom

#331
Vote count

#338
Doesn't think Boro and Mith are honest, but doesn't find them suspicious.

#340
Votes Izzy. Doesn't want Boro or Mith to die but doesn't offer reason why

#383
Doesn't like Lari's vote.
Speculates about Lovers.

At this point I must take a break. My brain has stopped processing correctly. More to come later.