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satansaloser2005 · 06-24-2009, 08:20 PM

I second Noggie's giggling. This is getting too interesting.

Popcorn, darling?

Nogrod · 06-24-2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Popcorn, darling?

Thanks but no thanks... I really need to go to sleep now... But if you ask me tomorrow I'll say yes.

G'night!

satansaloser2005 · 06-24-2009, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Thanks but no thanks... I really need to go to sleep now... But if you ask me tomorrow I'll say yes.

G'night!

I believe for you it IS tomorrow. But I'll save you some anyway.

Sleep well!

Macalaure · 06-24-2009, 08:23 PM

Nog, please. I was putting myself into Izzy's position, and from that position it is "if". Don't be ridiculous.

Macalaure · 06-24-2009, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Boro

Very bad? That's kind of a wierd statement...if you're the Ranger, what caused the "very bad" feeling about Kath's lynching? Maybe we are running out of time, but if you are the Ranger, you should not be worried about mistakingly lynching a giftedm and if you had any suspicion on her...why the "very bad" feeling?

That one had nothing to do with rangerness. Have you never been in the situation where voting someone would make logical sense, but it still doesn't feel right?

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Originally Posted by Boro

But didn't you vote for Kath and then retract? You had to be suspicious of her, why would that previous suspicion by voting for her suddenly make you believe today she is probably innocent?

Probably bad conscience. I have actually flip-flopped on that again by now. She could maybe have been a wolf with Lommy.

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Originally Posted by Boro

Hmm...not sure I agree, but this really isn't a point as to whether you are the Ranger or not. I'm just saying, that Lommy's aggressiveness after you is something I have never seen from her. So I have no idea whether she is innocent, or wolf...what I do know is she is more confident you are a wolf than I have ever seen. But why would that reveal anything about mutineer numbers?

If she's a wolf, which I have no doubt about, then her aggressiveness could come to bite her after my death. It only makes sense to pull it off if the village has no time to come and bite you. Therefore, the wolf numbers must be high - that together with possibly living cobblers would make this attack a very good tactic. The fact that the roles aren't revealed makes it even more so, a lot.

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Originally Posted by Boro

But the second part...if we're at most 2 wrong lynches away, and you're the Ranger, what good would lynching you tomorrow do us?

Give me another day and another protection, of course.

crossed with Lommy

Macalaure · 06-24-2009, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lommy

Mac you forget the possibility that someone would think you a cobbler.

Maybe I forgot it because I'm not one?

Shastanis Althreduin · 06-24-2009, 08:43 PM

Sidenote: I'm not going to bother defending myself against Lomwolf because she doesn't have one iota of a case. Sorry, darling.

Boromir88 · 06-24-2009, 08:54 PM

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That one had nothing to do with rangerness. Have you never been in the situation where voting someone would make logical sense, but it still doesn't feel right?~Mac

Yes, but you just said if Lommy's not a wolf, we will only be losing an innocent. And if you really are the Ranger, why the fear in lynching Kath? That's what I'm trying to point out, as an ordo I always fear mistakingly lynching a gifted, but as one of the gifteds I always feel more confident and aggressive in my voting, as I know I'm one of the gifteds. I'm just saying it looks like you were trying to strike up fear in lynching Kath, but if you're really the Ranger you should not be fearing the lynch would go "very bad."

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If she's a wolf, which I have no doubt about, then her aggressiveness could come to bite her after my death. It only makes sense to pull it off if the village has no time to come and bite you. Therefore, the wolf numbers must be high - that together with possibly living cobblers would make this attack a very good tactic. The fact that the roles aren't revealed makes it even more so, a lot.

Or we're not doing bad afterall and desperation is setting in? I'm waiting for Lommy's response to my question earlier, until I answer that more fully. Plus Gwath's mod-fire might play into the wolf strategy, if he is one...hmm

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Give me another day and another protection, of course.

Ahh got it...I was thinking if you really believe we don't have many days left, and we miss-lynch today, what's the point in giving you another day and lynching you tomorrow? You must be pretty confident than you won't be night killed?

Inziladun · 06-24-2009, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Boromir88

got it...I was thinking if you really believe we don't have many days left, and we miss-lynch today, what's the point in giving you another day and lynching you tomorrow? You must be pretty confident than you won't be night killed?

That's a good point. No self-saves from the Ranger this game. Nothing would
save the real one ToNight.

Isabellkya · 06-24-2009, 09:03 PM

--Mac

Perhaps toMorrow then.

Thinlómien · 06-24-2009, 08:44 PM

You really think I'd stay up more or less all night because of you if I was a mutineer? Like I said, I'm not that bad. Trust me I'd not be so picky, I'd go to sleep and not draw attention to myself like this. I'm not utterly stupid. A mutineer would be happy with a majority of the lynch choices. And I could have given up without losing my face, I could just have gone to sleep and told everybody they should lynch you meanwhile. I had the majority's trust. Do you think I would have started playing on it just to get a random innocent lynched? No, I'm not stupid.

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Originally Posted by Mac

Maybe I forgot it because I'm not one?

That is quite probable. I was just pointing out there was a hole in your logic.

edit: xed with Shasta well I will have a case toMorrow if we lynch that wretched Mac now, I promise

Macalaure · 06-24-2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Lommy

I was just pointing out there was a hole in your logic.

Not really. Since you could, in theory, be one, too, I merely ignored uninteresting cases.

Thinlómien · 06-24-2009, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Macalaure

Not really. Since you could, in theory, be one, too, I merely ignored uninteresting cases.

In theory I could be anything. Anything except the hunter.

edit: xed with Izzy

Macalaure · 06-24-2009, 08:52 PM

Who's still left?

Eonwe and Mith will not come back, and I don't expect Gwath to show up (not to mention that I wouldn't expect him to vote against his fellow). Apart from Gwath, the only outstanding vote is mine. Without retractions, we have: Mac 5, Lommy 2. I need two retractions out of you three, Boro, Nerwen, and Izzy. Pretty please?

Thinlómien · 06-24-2009, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac

I merely ignored uninteresting cases.

So who's the populist here?

edit: xed with Mac

Isabellkya · 06-24-2009, 08:49 PM

If I'm just a probable Cobbler or Mutie to you; then my vote matters not.

A Mutineer is a Mutineer - no matter how you slice 'em up. (or what order they go in.)

You think you can pull the argument... lynch Lommy first and her death will PROVE your Rangership? Nut uh. Not possible. Unless she comes back for second deaths.

oh Shasta - I never said I believed Mac's claim as Ranger.

X'd with Nog, Mac, and Lommy.
Edit 2. An S went AWOL.

Thinlómien · 06-24-2009, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac

If Lommy isn't a wolf, she's an ordo,

Nice to know.

Anybody, if you have something to ask me, please go forth. I will do my best to help. I'm not raging mad - on the opposite, you can try to talk to me. I alredy said I can switch my vote to Shasta if really needs be.

I know my attack on Mac must have seen weird and over the top, but don't think it was random. I wouldn't have gone so far, I wouldn't be awake now if I didn't have a good reason to suspect him.

edit: mass-xed

Thinlómien · 06-24-2009, 08:31 PM

Mac you forget the possibility that someone would think you a cobbler. It's not like the only possibility is that you're a mutineer but you are evil for sure.

06-24-2009, 08:20 PM	#1
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	I second Noggie's giggling. This is getting too interesting. Popcorn, darling? __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

06-24-2009, 08:43 PM	#7
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	Sidenote: I'm not going to bother defending myself against Lomwolf because she doesn't have one iota of a case. Sorry, darling. __________________ Shasta– ... However, if he's innocent his famous clairvoyant powers must be taking the week off. Meanwhile, the Night-kills have been awfully effective– almost like we're dealing with a psychic wolf... - Nerwen, WW LXXV

06-24-2009, 09:03 PM	#10
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	--Mac Perhaps toMorrow then. __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

06-24-2009, 08:49 PM	#16
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	If I'm just a probable Cobbler or Mutie to you; then my vote matters not. A Mutineer is a Mutineer - no matter how you slice 'em up. (or what order they go in.) You think you can pull the argument... lynch Lommy first and her death will PROVE your Rangership? Nut uh. Not possible. Unless she comes back for second deaths. oh Shasta - I never said I believed Mac's claim as Ranger. X'd with Nog, Mac, and Lommy. Edit 2. An S went AWOL. __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

06-24-2009, 08:31 PM	#18
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Mac you forget the possibility that someone would think you a cobbler. It's not like the only possibility is that you're a mutineer but you are evil for sure. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

06-24-2009, 08:23 PM	#4
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	Nog, please. I was putting myself into Izzy's position, and from that position it is "if". Don't be ridiculous.

06-24-2009, 08:52 PM	#14
Macalaure Fading Fëanorion Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: into the flood again Posts: 2,911	Who's still left? Eonwe and Mith will not come back, and I don't expect Gwath to show up (not to mention that I wouldn't expect him to vote against his fellow). Apart from Gwath, the only outstanding vote is mine. Without retractions, we have: Mac 5, Lommy 2. I need two retractions out of you three, Boro, Nerwen, and Izzy. Pretty please?