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Old 07-19-2009, 09:30 AM   #1
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Daniel Radcliffe as Bilbo Baggins. Shades of Frolijah anyone? I agree that while Radcliffe has improved as an actor he doesn't always sell his scenes. Besides I thought he was tied up finishing the last two Potter movies?
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If any Doctor Who actor would make a good Bilbo I would have said Sylvester McCoy, but ultimately, I'm not sure any of the surviving ones really fit the role. Tennant is especially unsuited in my opinion. If he is in any way involved with the film I'd suspect he was getting the Bard the Bowman role if anything. Of course, we're assuming no new characters are being invented for it...
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Of course, we're assuming no new characters are being invented for it...
Well, you know, there is a dearth of female characters in TH, and everybody knows that Hollywood thinks a romance is good for the pocketbook. Maybe they'll get Lucy Lawless to do a female Bard and she and Bilbo can share a certain kind of longing look.
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Old 07-19-2009, 01:43 PM   #4
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I think Sylvester McCoy would make a great Bilbo, he seemed
like one of the more sympathetic and empathetic doctors.

As for a female role, just fudge 10 years or so with Aragorn's
age (and does anyone think that would bother PJ?) and you've
got the beginning of the Aragorn/Arwen bit, together with an
appearance (and death scene) by his mother.
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Well, you know, there is a dearth of female characters in TH, and everybody knows that Hollywood thinks a romance is good for the pocketbook. Maybe they'll get Lucy Lawless to do a female Bard and she and Bilbo can share a certain kind of longing look.
It could be the beginning of a great romance. And if PJ pulls a George Lucas and releases a LOTR special edition this female Bard can be digitally added in certain scenes, despite how illogical that would be.
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I can only imagine that casting Tennant as Bilbo would be as a somewhat cynical ploy to appeal to his Dr Who fanbas who probably form the desired demographic. Who ain't my bag but Tennant is a fine actor who I could see in other Tolkienian roles (Eol maybe) but he is just to lanky and fey to play a hobbit - even a son of Belladonna Took. Smacks of desperation maybe?

Daniel Radcliffe might make a good Bilbo in 20 years... MC Avoy is definitely the closest . I wouldn't say he "falls off the page" but given that this film is unlikely to be more true to Bilbo than the others were to Frodo, he could be an intersting choice. I can see him getting the restless Took side even if it is harder to see him as the bourgeouis Mr Baggins..
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Well, you know, there is a dearth of female characters in TH, and everybody knows that Hollywood thinks a romance is good for the pocketbook. Maybe they'll get Lucy Lawless to do a female Bard and she and Bilbo can share a certain kind of longing look.
No. One of the dwarfs will be female. But you won't know which one. Neither will the other dwarfs.
But there'll be plenty of sidelong looks, uncomfortable pauses in conversations around the campfire and general confusion and unspoken innuendo when it comes time to bed down for the night.
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Daniel Radcliffe as Bilbo Baggins. Shades of Frolijah anyone? I agree that while Radcliffe has improved as an actor he doesn't always sell his scenes.
I definitely would NOT want Radcliffe as Bilbo! No, no, no!!!
But I can see a repeat of Frodolijah here.

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Tennant is especially unsuited in my opinion. If he is in any way involved with the film I'd suspect he was getting the Bard the Bowman role if anything.
Tennant as Bilbo? No way. He would make a rather bad hobbit in my opinion, even if it only is because of how tall he is!
I admire David Tennant's acting abilities, but I don't think that he is fit for the Hobbit, maybe for the Sil, but I could never get over this line: "I'm sorry, I'm so sorry." He would never do!
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No. One of the dwarfs will be female. But you won't know which one. Neither will the other dwarfs.
But there'll be plenty of sidelong looks, uncomfortable pauses in conversations around the campfire and general confusion and unspoken innuendo when it comes time to bed down for the night.
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I can only imagine that casting Tennant as Bilbo would be as a somewhat cynical ploy to appeal to his Dr Who fanbas who probably form the desired demographic. Who ain't my bag but Tennant is a fine actor who I could see in other Tolkienian roles (Eol maybe) but he is just to lanky and fey to play a hobbit - even a son of Belladonna Took. Smacks of desperation maybe?
For personal reasons I think it would be hilarious I Tennant were cast is Bilbo - just imagine him short and wearing a waistcoat! But for the sake if the film I would not encourage it, same with Radcliffe. On the other hand big-name actors would probabaly encourage non-Tolkien fans to come to the theatres and convert to our religion so to speak. Good things could happen.

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Well, you know, there is a dearth of female characters in TH, and everybody knows that Hollywood thinks a romance is good for the pocketbook. Maybe they'll get Lucy Lawless to do a female Bard and she and Bilbo can share a certain kind of longing look.
An interesting point, what are they going to do about that issue? But really, why do they have to change that? Why weren't there more females in the book itself? Not that that is a topic for this page but still.
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Of course, given PJ's penchant for "creativity" there
might be a Legolas tryst with a Laketown female archer
(who barvely brings the red arrow to Bard just before
Smaug kills her).
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For personal reasons I think it would be hilarious I Tennant were cast is Bilbo - just imagine him short and wearing a waistcoat! But for the sake if the film I would not encourage it, same with Radcliffe. On the other hand big-name actors would probabaly encourage non-Tolkien fans to come to the theatres and convert to our religion so to speak. Good things could happen.
Oh, you would, wouldn't you! Just to be funny. But, it would be funny to see Tennant as Bilbo (I just about wrote 'The Doctor') If there were big name actors in this film, then more people would probably come to it, yes, but why spoil a perfectly good film with actors that don't fit at all?
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...actors that don't fit at all?
PeeWee Herman as Beorn?

(OK... I'm ashamed of myself for even suggesting that in jest. I'm a bad, bad boy...)
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For personal reasons I think it would be hilarious I Tennant were cast is Bilbo - just imagine him short and wearing a waistcoat! But for the sake if the film I would not encourage it, same with Radcliffe. On the other hand big-name actors would probabaly encourage non-Tolkien fans to come to the theatres and convert to our religion so to speak. Good things could happen.



An interesting point, what are they going to do about that issue? But really, why do they have to change that? Why weren't there more females in the book itself? Not that that is a topic for this page but still.
Of course, given PJ's penchant for "creativity" there
might be a Legolas tryst with a Laketown female archer
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Of course, given PJ's penchant for "creativity" there
might be a Legolas tryst with a Laketown female archer
(who barvely brings the red arrow to Bard just before
Smaug kills her).
I see it more as the female archer is woundedi n the act of
giving the arrow to Leggy, who then slides down a
ramp tossing the arrow to Bard (Leggy having broken his
bow saving the fetching archer from an attack by Smaug).
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No. One of the dwarfs will be female. But you won't know which one. Neither will the other dwarfs.
But there'll be plenty of sidelong looks, uncomfortable pauses in conversations around the campfire and general confusion and unspoken innuendo when it comes time to bed down for the night.
Funny you should mention it, I touched on this gender confusion in my 'Monty Python's The Hobbit' parody, found here:
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Here is a brief but illuminating dialogue:

Bilbo was fidgeting as he paced inside Elrond’s chambers. “Now Gandalf, just who is this Master Elrond again?”

“He is a descendant of a great old family,” Gandalf replied succinctly. “Quite famous, actually. His great-grandfather was the mortal Beren who was wed to Luthien, daughter of an Elf king and a Maia.”

“What, like an Aztec?”

“No, Maia as in 'of the Maiar'. I am one myself.”

“I didn't know you came from Peru!”

“Oh, skip it! Just know that Elrond is a half-elf.”

“He's short then?”

“No, no, no!” Gandalf growled. “His father was mortal and his mother was an elf. No, wait...actually they both were elves, but his grandfather was mortal. Bah! Needless to say Elrond is still considered an elf, while his brother was mortal.”

“That makes no sense genetically,” Bilbo muttered in Darwinian confusion.

Dumplin the dwarf interrupted this witty repartee by asking, “Can dwarves wed elves?”

“I'm not sure,” Gandalf answered hesitantly. “I don't see why not, as it has been done several times in fan-fiction stories. Why do you ask?”

Dumplin clasped his hands together and his face turned beet-red. “Well, there's this elf in Mirkwood named Legolas, and he's just GORGEOUS!”

Bilbo frowned and turned to Balin and Dwalin for an explanation. He whispered, “What is the story with Dumplin? He certainly acts odd.”

Balin bit his lip, and then whispered back, “Well, actually, Dumplin is not a HE at all, but a SHE-dwarf, rather.”

Dwalin, whispering also, replied, “Are you sure?”

Balin rolled his eyes. “Well of course I'm sure. Look at her beard!”

“Dumplin…is a she?” Bilbo said incredulously.

Balin shrugged. “Well, close enough for a lonely night on the road.”

“You see, Bilbo,” Dwalin added with downcast eyes, “we dwarves have very few females.”
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Well, you know, there is a dearth of female characters in TH, and everybody knows that Hollywood thinks a romance is good for the pocketbook. Maybe they'll get Lucy Lawless to do a female Bard and she and Bilbo can share a certain kind of longing look.
Hahahaha! Oh my goodness! I'm so excited/nervous about the upcoming movies. BTW, has anyone heard if the "Hobbit II" has a name yet?
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I think it will most likely be The Hobbit: Part One and The Hobbit: Part Two.
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really? 'cause I watched an interview where Guillermo said he was planning on making the first film the hobbit and the second would be some sort of transition film between the hobbit and LOTR. As he said, "A fifth film to complete the symphony". *shrug* You never know though, these things do have a way of changing. =)
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Elfchick, that was the early plans, but last I head GDT decided against the 2nd film as being the 'bridge' film. He wants the Hobbit split up into 2 parts, because he wants to add in scenes with the White Council and the Necromancer.

After GDT said this, there were rumors of hollywood wanting a 3rd film to bridge The Hobbit and LOTR, but all GDT said was he was signed to do 2 movies, and they would both be about The Hobbit.
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For personal reasons I think it would be hilarious I Tennant were cast is Bilbo - just imagine him short and wearing a waistcoat!
Tennant has denied any rumours about him playing Bilbo. Sorry to crush your dream of seeing the Doctor with furry feet.

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IT WAS always rather unlikely that someone of David Tennant's height and build would end up playing the lead in Guillermo del Toro's two-part film of The Hobbit.

Rumours that the Doctor Who star was on a shortlist for the role surfaced earlier this month with talk that casting would be announced at San Diego Comic-Con.

But Peter Jackson, who is executive producing The Hobbit, said the production was several months way from hiring actors and made it clear there would be no casting news at the convention.

David Tennant has now denied any rumours that he will play Bilbo Baggins, telling MTV: "I'm a bit tall, aren't I? I know they do things with CGI now, but I'm 6'1". Hobbits are little. I do have quite hairy toes, though."

He added: "The internet is a curious place, isn't it? I think someone sits in their bedroom in Saskatchewan and comes up with an idea and they post it.

"And within minutes it's around the world and I'm getting phoned up by journalists and friends of mine saying, 'When are you off to shoot with Guillermo [del Toro]? It's not something I know anything about. No one's talked with me."
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I think it will most likely be The Hobbit: Part One and The Hobbit: Part Two.
Yeah, that was just confirmed by PJ at ComicCon.

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In an interview at Comic Con, Lord of the Rings director Peter Jackson spilled some interesting details about the status of the script for The Hobbit. He said the script for part one is about three weeks from completion. And everything — from casting to even getting a final green light from the studio — is still hanging on how that turns out.

He also explained in detail exactly why filmmakers decided that The Hobbit wouldn't all fit into a single movie:

We worked through the storyline, and we thought, "Well, obviously, we could squeeze The Hobbit into one movie," but even, like, a three-hour movie, you'd be amazed at how much of that story you'd have to lose. It's weird. I mean, the book ... is what the book is, and we just worked through a process of including all the events that we'd like to see in a film, and it was clear [that] it wasn't going to fit. Plus, the fact that we want to embellish a few things and put a little bit of extra ... narrative in for Gandalf and what he's doing in Dol Guldur and the Necromancer and various sort of side ... stories that are happening.

So, if all goes according to plan, we should get to see some pretty interesting scenes even beyond what was included in the book. A confrontation between Gandalf and the Necromancer before he has been exposed as Sauron could really turn out to be quite spectacular. There had been some speculation that the Gandalf/Necromancer storyline could be a key part of the plans for the (now abandoned) idea for a bridge film between the Hobbit and the Lord of the Rings. It's good to see that the concept itself has not been wholly abandoned.
Article can be found here.

So no more LotR prequel. I think separating The Hobbit into two parts will work better than the original idea.
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