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Sorry to double-post, but I missed alatar's last before posting mine.
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alatar - "That one...there!...looks like some guy painting the side of a castle with pompoms while a zebra in a hard hat in a jeep looks on while working at a laptop..." Morthoron - "It's a cumulus cloud already!" ![]() That all said, I'm just showing that even Tolkien didn't know that he was including Eru into the story, but he did, deny it as he might.
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To be honest, I don't see Eru in Bombadil, particulalry since Eru went out of his way to separate deities from mortal affairs in the Numenorean affair (that whole reshaping the earth and cataclysmic flood thing). The entire premise of LotR revolves around fate and providence -- indirect action on the part of the supreme being -- rather than direct and personal intervention. Even the Istari are reduced from their Maiaric states of perfection and ordered to kindle men's hearts, as opposed to matching Sauron power against power. That being the case, it makes little sense to have Illuvatar cavorting about in yellow boots with a nymphette tart waxing poetic on daisies and dogwood.
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See what I mean?
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Even Peter Jackson did cameos.
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![]() So did Alfred Hitchcock (Jackson's a copycat). I like that theory by Beth, particularly since it jibes with my idea that Bombadil is Tolkien's literary joke.
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Maybe he's just demonstrating what real perfect love would be like. If he is Eru, then there's nothing icky about the whole thing. Quote:
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I really, really, REALLY hope Eru is on a higher plane than Peter Jackson...
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![]() Really, in the end it must be down to conjecture and personal interpretation, or the question would likely have been resolved to the satisfaction of most long ago. Personally, I don't care much for 'enigmas', even in books. I like to be able to categorize things and make them fit in the world they inhabit. I know it can't always be done, but that doesn't stop me trying. ![]()
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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He's an ent
Old Man Willow is his old body...
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You obviously haven't read through the Sequence-by-Sequence threads.
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But that said, in order to boost my own theory, I must lay waste to the others. Tom cannot be an Ent, as his speech is much faster than that of any Ent, even Quickbeam. Goldberry is not an Entwife, as she's more into water sports than gardening (though if Tom has the last surviving Entwife around, I can see why he's hidden himself from the others). Tom is jolly, silly and wears a hat, and these aren't Ent traits either. So Tom is not an Ent. Next... ![]()
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