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McCaber · 09-09-2009, 11:53 AM

Dang. I'm going to have a lot less time than I originally thought.

So it seems I'm the number one suspect toDay, with two votes already and no one else really being mentioned. Let's see what I can do to answer some of these accusations, at least.

It seems some of the biggest points against me are voting for Inzil twice, both when he was in no danger of being lynched. Day 1 was a semi-random vote on my end, because I didn't think Kit looked bad and I wanted to bring up an alternate possibility. Day 2 was because I thought Legate was completely innocent by then, and I didn't want to join a bandwagon. Inzil was still my top suspect, so I voted him. I said we could lynch Legate then, but I didn't want to.

I brought up the Plan (tm) because people were still talking about it and I still think it was a bad idea. I stayed away from the Hakonwagon because I thought he was misguided, not a wolf.

That's just about all my thought processes on my actions. Now I have to think about which people look wolfy/guardable, and vote within maybe half an hour.

McCaber · 09-09-2009, 12:20 PM

All right. I'm out of time. My fate is your own.

++ Pitchwife

++ Nilpaurion Felagund

The first is because I have no idea whether he's being framed, is in fact a wolf, or is caught in some crazy coincidence. The second is because he's still making sense, and I'd like to see him stick around.

Boromir88 · 09-09-2009, 01:40 PM

Golly-gee willakers I haven't even finished reading what happened yesterday.

A Little Green · 09-09-2009, 01:42 PM

Now I'll have to vote as I'm going to sleep quite soon. I was kind of hoping to have more material to draw conclusions from, as it is the wolves will be the ones who profit since no one talks. They'll love this Day. I hope there is a sudden huge flood of posting still to come, though that doesn't help me a whole lot in deciding who to vote.

Or, actually, there isn't much to decide. I'll go after my top (and only) suspect since I haven't had the time to analyse old posts and there haven't been that many new ones - which means that my opinions of people haven't had that big a chance of changing. Therefore:

++ Sally

++Nienna

The latter because she's the one I feel most comfortable with.

EDIT: x-ed with Boro - yay, I actually x-ed with someone! So cool!

Brinniel · 09-09-2009, 01:46 PM

Greenie- Nienna can't be guarded toNight since she was guarded last Night.

A Little Green · 09-09-2009, 01:56 PM

Whooops.

Thanks for telling me! Luckily each player is allowed two retractable guard-votes so I can do this:

-- Nienna
++ Wilwa

If she's innocent (like she seems now) she'll be someone the wolves want to be rid of. And if she happened to be a wolf I wouldn't lament her fellows having to do one Night without her.

Nogrod · 09-09-2009, 02:09 PM

Well this is going to be a tough one: I need to wake up in about seven hours and it's two to the deadline...

At the moment I'm wawering between McCaber and Pitchwife. A lot has been said about McC lately but I'm going to go back a little to see if my suspicions on Pitchie have any merit looking backwards on his actions.

And sure Sally is someone I have suspected a lot earlier - but like Brinn, I have kind of become more easy with her as the Days have passed - Or have I just forgotten about her?

And just as a sidenote: I'm pretty sure not all Nilp, Nienna, Wilwa and Brinn are innocent. The problem is how to differentiate a really good villager from a rotten apple. But looking at the time and our numbers I'm not going to risk voting any one of them toDay.

Heh, that leaves only Greenie and Boro unmentioned. Well for a reason: I don't have the slightest concrete point either way...

Boromir88 · 09-09-2009, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Nogrod

Also with Boro I'm a bit uneasy with this kind of throw-aways:
First of all I don't think I never said I was innocent before this post (I think I said it toDay though) not to talk of me requiring you to think of me as one. Well I am innocent (second call), but I can't require you to believe me just by my word or by any dubious standard relating on how the wolves choose to play their game ot not. The problem with this is that you make it look like I have claimed innocense because of that Night's actions which I haven't and thence trying to claim something which basically a wolf would try to claim. But if you were a wolf wishing to see me lynched that would actually be the exact subtle way of trying it out whether others would pick on it.

It was a mix-up on my part, I thought it was you and wilwa who both pointed out that the the wolves were using the guard vote to frame innocents, thus since you were guarded during Night 3 you were an assumed innocent. But it was wilwa and Hakon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brinniel

Boromir keeps slipping under my radar and I can't figure out why that is.

Because usually I'm very loud and in people's faces?

Boromir88 · 09-09-2009, 02:07 PM

Hmm something else Nogrod said that I thought I commented on, but for some reason it didn't show up and now I can't find it.

Basically it's when Nog said he feels guilty for not trying enough so far, and then basically getting a free pass, which funny enough I feel like I'm in the same boat. It's really eerie to not have anyone challenging me to do better, when I really have done nothing at all. Well, except wilwa who just did today and makes her look a better to me, but at this point, I've done no analysis on anyone, and absolutely nothing, so I'm more or less just playing randomly and un-Borolike. The fact that no one is directly calling me out on it is scary...well again excluding wilwa who just did today.

Boromir88 · 09-09-2009, 02:13 PM

++Pitchwife

No particular reason at all other than I feel uncomfortable about his post on Day 2 that laid out reasons to suspect me. It made me feel he was innocent, but then Inzil chose to quote Pitch and defend me. Maybe 2-wolves working together, and Pitch was defensive of Inzil.

Now Inzil did vote to guard Pitch, but that was the 1st vote for Pitch and it was a 3-way tie with Shasta and Nerwen. I mean on that day it only took 3 votes.

Nienna · 09-09-2009, 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Hmm something else Nogrod said that I thought I commented on, but for some reason it didn't show up and now I can't find it.

Basically it's when Nog said he feels guilty for not trying enough so far, and then basically getting a free pass, which funny enough I feel like I'm in the same boat. It's really eerie to not have anyone challenging me to do better, when I really have done nothing at all. Well, except wilwa who just did today and makes her look a better to me, but at this point, I've done no analysis on anyone, and absolutely nothing, so I'm more or less just playing randomly and un-Borolike. The fact that no one is directly calling me out on it is scary...well again excluding wilwa who just did today.

Ok then.... you have an hour and a half before deadline. Do something productive. K? thanks. If you are worried about playing well then analyze someone or ... something... please. But since you voted... I assume you are off?

09-09-2009, 11:53 AM	#1
McCaber Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Skyrim, again. Posts: 820	Dang. I'm going to have a lot less time than I originally thought. So it seems I'm the number one suspect toDay, with two votes already and no one else really being mentioned. Let's see what I can do to answer some of these accusations, at least. It seems some of the biggest points against me are voting for Inzil twice, both when he was in no danger of being lynched. Day 1 was a semi-random vote on my end, because I didn't think Kit looked bad and I wanted to bring up an alternate possibility. Day 2 was because I thought Legate was completely innocent by then, and I didn't want to join a bandwagon. Inzil was still my top suspect, so I voted him. I said we could lynch Legate then, but I didn't want to. I brought up the Plan (tm) because people were still talking about it and I still think it was a bad idea. I stayed away from the Hakonwagon because I thought he was misguided, not a wolf. That's just about all my thought processes on my actions. Now I have to think about which people look wolfy/guardable, and vote within maybe half an hour. __________________ Werewolves vs. Fishmen. The battle of the century.

09-09-2009, 12:20 PM	#2
McCaber Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Skyrim, again. Posts: 820	All right. I'm out of time. My fate is your own. ++ Pitchwife ++ Nilpaurion Felagund The first is because I have no idea whether he's being framed, is in fact a wolf, or is caught in some crazy coincidence. The second is because he's still making sense, and I'd like to see him stick around. __________________ Werewolves vs. Fishmen. The battle of the century.

09-09-2009, 01:40 PM	#3
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Golly-gee willakers I haven't even finished reading what happened yesterday. __________________ Fenris Penguin

09-09-2009, 01:42 PM	#4
A Little Green Leaf-clad Lady Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,571	Now I'll have to vote as I'm going to sleep quite soon. I was kind of hoping to have more material to draw conclusions from, as it is the wolves will be the ones who profit since no one talks. They'll love this Day. I hope there is a sudden huge flood of posting still to come, though that doesn't help me a whole lot in deciding who to vote. Or, actually, there isn't much to decide. I'll go after my top (and only) suspect since I haven't had the time to analyse old posts and there haven't been that many new ones - which means that my opinions of people haven't had that big a chance of changing. Therefore: ++ Sally ++Nienna The latter because she's the one I feel most comfortable with. EDIT: x-ed with Boro - yay, I actually x-ed with someone! So cool! __________________ "But some stories, small, simple ones about setting out on adventures or people doing wonders, tales of miracles and monsters, have outlasted all the people who told them, and some of them have outlasted the lands in which they were created."

09-09-2009, 01:46 PM	#5
Brinniel Reflection of Darkness Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull. Posts: 2,983	Greenie- Nienna can't be guarded toNight since she was guarded last Night. __________________ Nolite te bastardes carborundorum

09-09-2009, 01:56 PM	#6
A Little Green Leaf-clad Lady Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,571	Whooops. Thanks for telling me! Luckily each player is allowed two retractable guard-votes so I can do this: -- Nienna ++ Wilwa If she's innocent (like she seems now) she'll be someone the wolves want to be rid of. And if she happened to be a wolf I wouldn't lament her fellows having to do one Night without her. __________________ "But some stories, small, simple ones about setting out on adventures or people doing wonders, tales of miracles and monsters, have outlasted all the people who told them, and some of them have outlasted the lands in which they were created."

09-09-2009, 02:09 PM	#7
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Well this is going to be a tough one: I need to wake up in about seven hours and it's two to the deadline... At the moment I'm wawering between McCaber and Pitchwife. A lot has been said about McC lately but I'm going to go back a little to see if my suspicions on Pitchie have any merit looking backwards on his actions. And sure Sally is someone I have suspected a lot earlier - but like Brinn, I have kind of become more easy with her as the Days have passed - Or have I just forgotten about her? And just as a sidenote: I'm pretty sure not all Nilp, Nienna, Wilwa and Brinn are innocent. The problem is how to differentiate a really good villager from a rotten apple. But looking at the time and our numbers I'm not going to risk voting any one of them toDay. Heh, that leaves only Greenie and Boro unmentioned. Well for a reason: I don't have the slightest concrete point either way... __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

09-09-2009, 02:07 PM	#9
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Hmm something else Nogrod said that I thought I commented on, but for some reason it didn't show up and now I can't find it. Basically it's when Nog said he feels guilty for not trying enough so far, and then basically getting a free pass, which funny enough I feel like I'm in the same boat. It's really eerie to not have anyone challenging me to do better, when I really have done nothing at all. Well, except wilwa who just did today and makes her look a better to me, but at this point, I've done no analysis on anyone, and absolutely nothing, so I'm more or less just playing randomly and un-Borolike. The fact that no one is directly calling me out on it is scary...well again excluding wilwa who just did today. __________________ Fenris Penguin

09-09-2009, 02:13 PM	#10
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	++Pitchwife No particular reason at all other than I feel uncomfortable about his post on Day 2 that laid out reasons to suspect me. It made me feel he was innocent, but then Inzil chose to quote Pitch and defend me. Maybe 2-wolves working together, and Pitch was defensive of Inzil. Now Inzil did vote to guard Pitch, but that was the 1st vote for Pitch and it was a 3-way tie with Shasta and Nerwen. I mean on that day it only took 3 votes. __________________ Fenris Penguin