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Old 09-21-2009, 02:25 AM   #1
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Let's say you Legate have been "chosen" as the Night-Talker. You'll get the PM from me a little bit after the Day has ended (I need to take care of the possible urgent matters first). As soon as you get my PM you can contact any one person you wish (I'd like to hear from you who you choose but otherwise it's between you two). Then if the Cobbler chooses you let's say 12 hours to the Night I'll PM you (and your chosen friend) not to send any PM's any more that Night. And that's it. If the Cobbler has decided to prevent you from doing things already before (like when he has gotten out of the thread for the Day involved) and has notified me of his choice I can tell you immediately after the Day ends that sadly you would have been the Talker but someone prevented it.
Okay, it all sounds fine then. You take care of it. It's indeed more "realistic", as you say, and I am sure you can incorporate it to the narrations. Well, I guess I have no other questions. Let us play
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Old 09-21-2009, 04:04 PM   #2
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The game is on! Here!

Good luck and have fun everyone!
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Old 09-22-2009, 05:11 PM   #3
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I must object to my untimely death!

As elected Captain I should have been given the opportunity to cancel the lynch altogether (Then the master hunter would not have killed me), but I was declared dead before I had the chance.

(I realised I could not make it back home in time for deadline, but did not worry as I remembered flexibility being mentioned in the rules)

Anyways I hope this bunch of rangers shall rip and be shattered by the shrapnell of darkness!
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Old 09-22-2009, 05:37 PM   #4
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I can feel your pain Rune and I'm quite unhappy you were killed (just as a personal note - as a mod I try to be as balanced and fair I can).

But sure you wouldn't have cancelled the lynching of Hakon without knowing he was after you - and being the Master-Hunter? So "wisdom of late" is it?

And the next one behind you two were two votes away so you wouldn't even had a licence to get anyone else lynched.

Anyway the Captain was actually produced at the same moment as the lynch was declared so the ability to cancel a lynching factually concerns only those Captains that are Captains before and after the DL at the end of the Day. Just imagine the complexity of the execution and rulings if that were not so...

Sad to see you go so early though.
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Old 09-22-2009, 05:44 PM   #5
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I can feel your pain Rune and I'm quite unhappy you were killed (just as a personal note - as a mod I try to be as balanced and fair I can).

But sure you wouldn't have cancelled the lynching of Hakon without knowing he was after you - and being the Master-Hunter? So "wisdom of late" is it?

And the next one behind you two were two votes away so you wouldn't even had a licence to get anyone else lynched.

Anyway the Captain was actually produced at the same moment as the lynch was declared so the ability to cancel a lynching factually concerns only those Captains that are Captains before and after the DL at the end of the Day. Just imagine the complexity of the execution and rulings if that were not so...
All this does is show that there was, well maybe not a flaw in the rules, but atleast a lack of information in them.

I should probably be careful what I say about what I would and wouldn't have done, as it could be analysed and is therefor better saved for after the game. Anyways I will say that I did consider the option of canceling the lynch if I got the chance. (I can always elaborate more after the game)
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Old 09-23-2009, 08:14 AM   #6
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All this does is show that there was, well maybe not a flaw in the rules, but atleast a lack of information in them.
You're absolutely right and I do apologise. My fault.

There seems to be few things I have thought of by myself but haven't voiced out clearly enough in the rules (partly due to the fact that the last day before the game started ended up being more hectic in RL terms than I expected). I'll try to figure out if there are still ones that haven't been explained.

But I'll open this one up first.

The idea is that to gain the power to cancel lynchings or change the lynchee the Captain should have gained the trust of the people; being the Captain for two Days in a row (=being elected the Day before and not sacked / voted out on the next) would be just that.

Yes, I was actually after some leadership with the Captain-role - whoever takes it. And few soldiers follow tough rulings of a Captain they don't value highly enough. That's the kind of realistic agenda behind it.

The newly appointed Captain would only have power over a case of a vote-tie. Without that power the Captain would only be one who is protected during the Night added with some Night-talker abilities - so a paper-leader.

So even a newly chosen Captain has some power but only a "trusted" Captain can yield real power (cancelling the lynch altogether, changing the lynchee to someone having one vote less than the one getting lynched otherwise).
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Old 09-23-2009, 09:28 AM   #7
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